Moparmike Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 ok guys I have a 2000 rd688 e7 . I changed the water and antifreeze bout yr or 2 back . checked it now it's rusty so I open the drain on the oil cooler nothing comes out . so I pull the thermostat housing and the water is bubbling like crazy ..why I have no idea the truck is cold .. any help would be appreciated I have a video but can't seem to load its to large I guess Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Usually means compression is getting into the cylinders Head gasket would be the likely cause, maybe the compressor but not likely as it normally needs heat and compression to cause this to happen Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adkat Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 So nothing came out drain but system was full, right? So is the drain plugged with snot from inside the cooling system? Seen systems with enough crud in them to block an inch line, so radiator cores would be definitely blocked. Which would cause the pump to cavitate, creating air bubbles in the system. Wrong mix of coolant/ anti freeze can react with each other, as well as poor quality/ hard water can cause corrosion/ rust in system. Just something to think about. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted December 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2022 When you had the thermostat out, did you take the belts off, and run the engine to see if bubbles are present? you can also bypass the air compressor coolant lines in order to rule out a failed compressor head. If you do this and bubbles are present, I would say bad head gasket(s).. If the bubbles go away, hook the compressor lines back up and check for bubbles again.. If bubble show up, then the air compressor is bad.. jojo 2 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 took belts off no bubbles took drain out of the bottom of the cooler no water comes out of there even refilled it with drain ran it still nothing comes out Jojo if your not to busy I'd like to bring it down to you have a few things I'd like to get you to do to it if possible Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I would be honored.. But I have a full time job now. So your turn around time is important.. P.M. me with your phone number, and I will call you by the weekend.. 🍻 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 17 hours ago, Moparmike said: took belts off no bubbles took drain out of the bottom of the cooler no water comes out of there even refilled it with drain ran it still nothing comes out Jojo if your not to busy I'd like to bring it down to you have a few things I'd like to get you to do to it if possible Don't want to take work away from Joey But ! Mike did you pull that fitting right out don't just take the wing nut out pull the whole fitting! I have had those pugged solid with corruption! Do this first before getting carried away! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) FJH... We need to help cut his cost and downtime, anyway WE can.. Go Team !!! I hope he doesn't have to take it to any shop, and he solves the issue himself.. one or more of us, will help him.. jojo Edited December 15, 2022 by Joey Mack More content needed 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 55 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: FJH... We need to help cut his cost and downtime, anyway WE can.. Go Team !!! I hope he doesn't have to take it to any shop, and he solves the issue himself.. one or more of us, will help him.. jojo All good bro just don’t want to step on toes! Buddy! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I know.. You are correct.. I think He needs to do a bit more.. Im all about the customer, for lack of a better word.. and would rather not have to be called on to fix it.. I appreciate your approach... All Good.. Jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adkat Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Spot on Joey, seems like Mike can get this sorted without having to take it to a workshop. No bubbles with belt off sways toward pump cavitation from blockage/ foreign matter in system, as does nothing coming out drain on cooler. Nothing that couldn't be fixed by pulling a few hoses and back flushing. Also some good cooling system cleaners out there worth a look at. Worst case pull the radiator and have it rodded . See how he gets on. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I like the idea of a coolant flush.. an old timer taught me years ago to use Cascade.. It was for oil, however,. It cleans.. Jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd71106 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 6:03 AM, Joey Mack said: I like the idea of a coolant flush.. an old timer taught me years ago to use Cascade.. It was for oil, however,. It cleans.. Jojo Interesting. Are you talking about Cascade automatic dishwasher powder detergent ? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Yes Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: Yes Good for removing oil after an oil cooler failure! Don't know about rust thou!you have to flush the system several times with water to purge the soap out! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted December 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2022 But Cascade has "Sheeting action, for drops that Spot". 1 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adkat Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I've used this with pretty good results with rust in systems. https://costeffective.com.au/product/rmi-25-cooling-system-treatment/ Don't know if you have a similar product over there. Anyway, any news on how Mike's getting on? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 ok guys I said oil cooler it's the transmission cooler that runs off the bottom hose on the radiator my apologies I haven't had much time to really mess with it but I'm going to have to make so.e time I really appreciate you all Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 pic of said cooler with big orange hose and 2 hoses coming off the back Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-518973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 ok guys got everything apart took all hoses off from reservoir tank took hoses from top bottom of radiator took hose from side of motor to transmission cooler flushed everything out with water put all hoses back on filled it with cascade let it run til it was blowing hot heat inside around 150 temp on gauge now I open reservoir cap the water is still cold I can put my finger in the water not hot at all I'm thinking of changing out the thermostat what do you guys think I figured try the cheapest part first or should I just do water pump and thermostat at the same time thanks guys you'll been a great help Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-519955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Moparmike said: ok guys got everything apart took all hoses off from reservoir tank took hoses from top bottom of radiator took hose from side of motor to transmission cooler flushed everything out with water put all hoses back on filled it with cascade let it run til it was blowing hot heat inside around 150 temp on gauge now I open reservoir cap the water is still cold I can put my finger in the water not hot at all I'm thinking of changing out the thermostat what do you guys think I figured try the cheapest part first or should I just do water pump and thermostat at the same time thanks guys you'll been a great help Stat first 150 to cold! How long are you running it? need to get it hot! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-519957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparmike Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 ran it about 45 minutes to a hr I open the cap and put my finger in there at that temperature not hot at all Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-519960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Moparmike said: ran it about 45 minutes to a hr I open the cap and put my finger in there at that temperature not hot at all Can you work its ass? Running at an idle is not the greatest! 1 hour ago, Moparmike said: ca 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-519963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Gauge readings look good at idle... Thermostats are easy to replace on that. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70864-water-turn-rusty/#findComment-519967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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