Puller270 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I'd like to change out the 10/20 tires on b61 to bud rims any suggestions where I start looking for hubs Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
609albert Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 on my LS85 1954 fire pumper we kept the spoke wheels , new dayton rims, new radials 1100 x 22.5 what a difference in ride (tubeless) and much safer Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Rear axle, swap it( add air ride too). The front will take more effort, depending on what axle it has. Like my axle(FA517) has no budd hub that can swap to it. Been there, tried that. Not sure about the lighter front axles. Finding a B model budd front axle is slim pickings unless you get lucky. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Green Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 There are some members here that have used a freightliner fld axle I did some measuring and the spring mounts are off by half an in and it’s a little wider but I wouldn’t mind the tires being closer to the fenders I found a few hub pilot ones but don’t want to drop 900 bucks for a used axle I only got 250 in the tandem air ride I added to my b model Quote If your going to be a bear be a grizzly Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puller270 Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 Mine is the severe service model by vin # on frame no tag in door when I bought and I have to figure out how to get a Pennsylvania title. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Green Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I have found if you can get a paper title that’s for the same model I have seen repo door vin tags for sale Quote If your going to be a bear be a grizzly Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
h67st Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 14 hours ago, Mean Green said: I have found if you can get a paper title that’s for the same model I have seen repo door vin tags for sale Mean Green, do you have photos of your avatar truck on here? Judging by that little picture, it's a nice looking truck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Green Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 H67 ht Thank you here’s one from the end of summer don’t have the sleeper fit in place yet but hopefuly spring I’ll have it all done 1 Quote If your going to be a bear be a grizzly Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licensed to kill Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 On 12/31/2022 at 5:19 PM, Puller270 said: I'd like to change out the 10/20 tires on b61 to bud rims any suggestions where I start looking for hubs I swapped out the rear axle to one from a freight liner and for the front I got the hubs from a newer Mack (but any truck should work) and modified them to accept the bearings on the B-61 axle. I also had to put thicker lining on the brake shoes and turn down the new brake drums a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Green Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 license to kill the only thing I worry about all the modifying and cutting and thicker linings is what to do if something fails or wears out I’m having a hard time finding tie rod ends now and if I swap in a different front axle new parts should be available and even reasonable priced junk yard parts could be had I would go hub pilot or budd don’t mater to me just trying to stay in a budget lol Quote If your going to be a bear be a grizzly Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licensed to kill Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) To be fair, if you have to hire all the Machine work the conversion would get quite pricey. As far as wear goes, even if I was a kid still I don’t think I would live long enough to wear out a set of brake shoes and if I did I would just have them relined and same with the drums. Zero chance I could ever wear them out but if I did just do the same as I did the first time. Edited January 4, 2023 by Licensed to kill 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackaholic Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I've got a B61 front axle the stud pilot budd hubs and drums. No backing plates. They are in CA though. Long way from PA. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Green Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Lol ya too far for me I still plan to convert it think I’m going to go the freightliner axle route Quote If your going to be a bear be a grizzly Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-519978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 There was a B model budd front axle w/brakes that sold at ATHS convention auction last summer. I missed out, but know who got it. I told him I want first dibs if he doesn't use it. I've been looking for 20 yrs. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-520089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Green Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 It’s cause we are east coast every thing was Dayton back in the day we had a fleet of ford ltl 9000 back in the day and ended up changing them to hub pilot it was just hub and drum change back then we kept breaking the flange on the rears and studs in the front Quote If your going to be a bear be a grizzly Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-520105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb73lt Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Not the easiest swap to do, but it can be done. Main problem, as you're finding out, is availability. Locating a set of hubs, front or rear, can be tough. I left the Dayton hubs on my B42, but swapped the rims to 22.5" on the FA505 axle. I like the look and the B model chrome hubcaps. On my B73 with a FA507 axle, I wanted to put Budd hubs on to run Alcoa rims because it has a lot of aluminum and stainless and I wanted that look. It was a whole separate project to do it, with a whole other project to add brake drums to the front hubs as they came off a truck without them. Matching up the the hubs to fit the axle/spindle arrangement can be problematic. It can be very time consuming tracking everything down and making sure it'll all fit. My best advice would be to be patient and network through everybody you know and sites like this. Be adamant and keep asking everywhere you go about them. Some will surface. As others have stated, you can also work an axle swap to make it happen. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-520110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puller270 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 Thanks for all the feed back. I have aline on some 22.5 Dayton Tim for mean time and will work on acquiring pilot hubs as time goes it needs alot of work. Replumb and wire some led lights that look appropriate it's going to be used around Grammys with fifth wheel for hay and grain. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/70947-hub-conversion/#findComment-520514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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