It's quiet in here.

[doubleclutchinweasel]

[Freightrain]

Ive been busy and not as regular here as I have been.

[1958 F.W.D.]

This is a Mack forum. If you want noise, go to the detroitsaredumb.com forums

[tjc transport]

25 minutes ago, 1958 F.W.D. said:

This is a Mack forum. If you want noise, go to the imalibtardandeverythingoffendsme.com forums

Fixed it Fer ya!  😁

[mowerman]

Oh I did not know you were talking about this site ha ha. Seems like past couple months. There’s only a handful of us left. Happy Saturday fellas thought it was never get here. Bob

[mowerman]

Cool dog … Bob

[other dog]

I got my Pit Barrel Cooker 6 years ago, it was on my Facebook memories. One of the best purchases I ever made.

Here's a girl in a car from the interweb, because it's too quiet in here.

[other dog]

On 5/12/2023 at 10:14 AM, 1958 F.W.D. said:

This is a Mack forum. If you want noise, go to the detroitsaredumb.com forums

That's funny, speaking of Detroits, I was just reading on a Detroit Diesel fan page. Saw where somebody had posted a question "I'm only 11 years old, but I have developed quite a taste for 2 stroke Detroit power, and I really want one bad- does anybody know if a 6-71 will fit in a 1958 FWD, or should I order the 4-71 from Amazon?..asking for a friend, TIA, Casey from Hellertown."

Thought you might know, since you actually have a 1958 FWD, maybe you could help young Casey from Hellertown out with his project.

[mowerman]

Thanks for the cool photos Tom

[RowdyRebel]

I've been cussing up a storm today. Wife got a text that the travel trailer was ready to be picked up. Brand new unit, had a couple minor things that needed attention. Anyway, one of those things was they were supposed to drop in a 2nd battery we'd asked for and run the jumper wires. The box was already on there. So what did they do? Run 4 self-tapping screws through the bottom of the plastic battery box into the steel battery tray. Keep in mind, the OTHER battery box was still just setting in there held by the strap...just like it was when we originally bought the trailer. Why they felt the need to screw this one on, so tight that the heads of the self-tapping screws had torn the bottom of the box to the point where they weren't actually holding anything in place, just providing 4 real nice soon-to-be rusty sharp points protruding beneath the front of the trailer to find their way into my noggin if I ever have to slide under there to do anything in the future. To top it all off, they didn't even orient the batteries in the same direction. They had the positive terminals on the outside with the grounds in the middle, so they had a long positive jumper and a short little ground jumper. Yes, electrically it's fine...but it looks fucking sloppy. Maybe it's just me, but if there's multiple batteries in a system, they should all be facing the same direction.

So I ended up buying a 3rd battery box, which is different than the other 2 so now I'll be buying a 4th that either matches the other 2 or the new one I just bought. Then I welded up the holes, ground them smooth, wire wheeled the powder coating to smooth it all out before repainiting. Yeah, it looks like crap because the powder coating had a little texture, while the repaired areas are smooth...which is going to piss me off all over again every time I have the battery boxes out and see it...but at least there's no more holes in the tray and no sharp pointy soon-to-be rusty objects poking through. Then I took a pair of cheap 6-gauge jumper cables and made a new jumper wire. I'll probably end up picking up some more ring crinps to solder on to use the bonded jumper cable wire to run out of the batter box to the camper's power & ground...just looks better than the thinner gauge loose wires. Pretty easy to do...just heat 'em up with a torch, fill them with solder, stick the stripped end of the wire in, let it cool, then put some heat-shrink tube on there and hit it with the heat gun to finish it out. Nice, sealed, professional looking cables...not the crappy looking scrap wire with the cheap plastic insulated crimps crimped on so the plastic insulation is cracked & distorted.

Anyway, my wife thinks I over-reacted...that it's no big deal...but she's not the one that was going to end up with a rusty self-tapping screw tearing a hole in her head in a few years. Sad thing is, I'd already done some work on it...safety wired the end caps in the back bumper, added some reverse lights, slid the spare tire over, and added a receiver hitch to the back bumper to carry the cargo rack that'll hold the generator & a couple gas cans. If they'd paid attention to the quality of work I do myself, they'd know what I expect. Maybe I just shouldn't have anyone else working on mystuff...but most of what we were having them do was warranty work, so why should I do it?

[tjc transport]

why should you do it? 

because no one gives a damn about quality of work anymore. it is all about getting it done as fast and cheaply as possible. 

[Joey Mack]

I'm with TJC..  I hope your blood pressure is back down by now.. I'm sure you know it only gets worse. I was getting pissed while reading the story..  I hope you enjoy the camper soon..  jojo

[fjh]

8 hours ago, RowdyRebel said:

I've been cussing up a storm today. Wife got a text that the travel trailer was ready to be picked up. Brand new unit, had a couple minor things that needed attention. Anyway, one of those things was they were supposed to drop in a 2nd battery we'd asked for and run the jumper wires. The box was already on there. So what did they do? Run 4 self-tapping screws through the bottom of the plastic battery box into the steel battery tray. Keep in mind, the OTHER battery box was still just setting in there held by the strap...just like it was when we originally bought the trailer. Why they felt the need to screw this one on, so tight that the heads of the self-tapping screws had torn the bottom of the box to the point where they weren't actually holding anything in place, just providing 4 real nice soon-to-be rusty sharp points protruding beneath the front of the trailer to find their way into my noggin if I ever have to slide under there to do anything in the future. To top it all off, they didn't even orient the batteries in the same direction. They had the positive terminals on the outside with the grounds in the middle, so they had a long positive jumper and a short little ground jumper. Yes, electrically it's fine...but it looks fucking sloppy. Maybe it's just me, but if there's multiple batteries in a system, they should all be facing the same direction.

So I ended up buying a 3rd battery box, which is different than the other 2 so now I'll be buying a 4th that either matches the other 2 or the new one I just bought. Then I welded up the holes, ground them smooth, wire wheeled the powder coating to smooth it all out before repainiting. Yeah, it looks like crap because the powder coating had a little texture, while the repaired areas are smooth...which is going to piss me off all over again every time I have the battery boxes out and see it...but at least there's no more holes in the tray and no sharp pointy soon-to-be rusty objects poking through. Then I took a pair of cheap 6-gauge jumper cables and made a new jumper wire. I'll probably end up picking up some more ring crinps to solder on to use the bonded jumper cable wire to run out of the batter box to the camper's power & ground...just looks better than the thinner gauge loose wires. Pretty easy to do...just heat 'em up with a torch, fill them with solder, stick the stripped end of the wire in, let it cool, then put some heat-shrink tube on there and hit it with the heat gun to finish it out. Nice, sealed, professional looking cables...not the crappy looking scrap wire with the cheap plastic insulated crimps crimped on so the plastic insulation is cracked & distorted.

Anyway, my wife thinks I over-reacted...that it's no big deal...but she's not the one that was going to end up with a rusty self-tapping screw tearing a hole in her head in a few years. Sad thing is, I'd already done some work on it...safety wired the end caps in the back bumper, added some reverse lights, slid the spare tire over, and added a receiver hitch to the back bumper to carry the cargo rack that'll hold the generator & a couple gas cans. If they'd paid attention to the quality of work I do myself, they'd know what I expect. Maybe I just shouldn't have anyone else working on my stuff...but most of what we were having them do was warranty work, so why should I do it?

Maybe I just shouldn't have anyone else working on my stuff...but most of what we were having them do was warranty work, so why should I do it? just not worth putting your blood pressure up over as we most of us have said this generation  of folks are spoiled and are just there for the paycheck not to do a good job or create a good customer base for their employer! The Rats ass is not given by them!😒

[Joey Mack]

To add to this,  I have found myself, sort-of, giving in at times, because, any extra effort I would put into providing good service, could be reversed by the actions of my leaders.. Giving a customer a good repair, gets lost when the company wants every penny for the job, and the pennies that were lost on a previous job that had nothing to do with the current customer.. This crap also causes the consumer to be difficult to deal with, for example when I was in business..  They expected me to do it super cheap because the Dealership screwed them.  Well, my knowledge isn't as cheap as they want it to be.. anyway, I believe it is a circle of B.S. that starts with a greedy service provider..  Just my opinion, and 1 example..  

[fjh]

Most people will pay the price for Good work as long as its Good! How ever you can't please all the people all the time! I would rather take my stuff to people with the experience If I can't fix it my self!  Example I hate working on power saws! I used to take my saws to Walkers saw in town here! Since the kids took over the business the service is shit ! I took my stil  bucking saw in as i was having starting issues I new it was a carb problem so  Tryed two new carbs off of amazon china garbage ! One would start the saw run the saw but it would not rev! The other would not run the saw period! got pissed off,  I finally took the saw in for them to look at! They had it a week! I went in to pick it up! They told me it was worn out the clutch the saw Was worn out and all the things wrong made it not worth fixing! They waived the look over fee ! SO  I took the saw to a competing shop down town  told him my story  and he phoned me a day later come get your saw its ready! He put a good used carb on it fired right up! Charged me 60 bucks Im a happy camper The saw runs and pulls good even in the big logs now! Pretty Decent for a worn out saw!!!!!! So walkers is now on my shit list after dealing with them for 30 years (I"m done!) the other shop now gets my vote ! again he's a one man opp  and takes pride in his ability's to fix things! much like you Joe! 

[tjc transport]

ii very rarely go out on truck rental.

but when i do i drive just like i am working for my company. slow and safe. 

first time with a company they would bitch and moan because i was getting passed by trucks. go faster!!!. 

nope. if you dont like the way i drive sign me out. 

yet at the end of the day i usually end up doing one or two more loads than everyone else, because i do not take 45 minute coffee breaks and 1.5 hour lunches. i grab my food/drinks and go, eating while driving or while sitting on the job waiting to load or unload.

 

[mowerman]

Great post fellows too many likes And rowdy. That does not surprise me at all these days. Sorry about that.Bob

[Mean Green]

I always look at it this way no one will ever do something and good as I’m expecting them to do it that why Dad always said just do it your self

[RowdyRebel]

Worst part is, if they'd JUST done the bare minimum...drop the battery in the box, run a couple jumpers, & strap it back down, I wouldn't have been all that aggrevated about the orientation or crap crimps...they were installing the extra battery we were buying for free since it was there for the other work...one burner on the stove wouldn't ignite on its own, but would after the other 2 were going...drawers & cabinet doors wouldn't stay closed WHILE EMPTY on the short drive home from the dealer...and the power jack on the front is supposed to have a light, but the light quit working before we even got it home. Like I said, all warranty work except for the 2nd battery (which was supposed to be on when we took delivery, but word didn't get passed along to the guy prepping it).

Anyway, pissed off the wife last night...THOUGHT I ws doing good, too. Unloaded the dishwasher & went through the boxes of dishes we got from my grandma...LOTS of tupperware cups, bowls, and microwave & oven safe (just not broiler or range top) cookware. I figured it'd be great for the camper...not breakable, light weight, etc...and loaded up a load to get it cleaned up (they've been out in the garage for a year or so). She gets home & opens the dishwasher and says "those are ugly". Sure, they're kind of a dark yellowy tan color...not my 1st choice either (or 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th for that matter)...but they were free, won't break, and still work just fine. Funny thing is, she thinks they'll be fine for the house...just not the camper.🤦‍♂️

Wimmins.🤷‍♂️

[RowdyRebel]

4 hours ago, tjc transport said:

ii very rarely go out on truck rental.

but when i do i drive just like i am working for my company. slow and safe. 

first time with a company they would bitch and moan because i was getting passed by trucks. go faster!!!. 

nope. if you dont like the way i drive sign me out. 

yet at the end of the day i usually end up doing one or two more loads than everyone else, because i do not take 45 minute coffee breaks and 1.5 hour lunches. i grab my food/drinks and go, eating while driving or while sitting on the job waiting to load or unload.

 

LOL! Can't think about rental cars/trucks without thinking about Jeff Foxworthy's bit about 'em...

😂

[mowerman]

That this story was hilarious Bubba and yes they do not sound very appealing to me either color wise. Perfect for the camper. No wait a minute here. How old is this camper? I thought it was brand new. I’m confused about the loose cabinet doors.

[fjh]

45 minutes ago, RowdyRebel said:

Worst part is, if they'd JUST done the bare minimum...drop the battery in the box, run a couple jumpers, & strap it back down, I wouldn't have been all that aggrevated about the orientation or crap crimps...they were installing the extra battery we were buying for free since it was there for the other work...one burner on the stove wouldn't ignite on its own, but would after the other 2 were going...drawers & cabinet doors wouldn't stay closed WHILE EMPTY on the short drive home from the dealer...and the power jack on the front is supposed to have a light, but the light quit working before we even got it home. Like I said, all warranty work except for the 2nd battery (which was supposed to be on when we took delivery, but word didn't get passed along to the guy prepping it).

Anyway, pissed off the wife last night...THOUGHT I ws doing good, too. Unloaded the dishwasher & went through the boxes of dishes we got from my grandma...LOTS of tupperware cups, bowls, and microwave & oven safe (just not broiler or range top) cookware. I figured it'd be great for the camper...not breakable, light weight, etc...and loaded up a load to get it cleaned up (they've been out in the garage for a year or so). She gets home & opens the dishwasher and says "those are ugly". Sure, they're kind of a dark yellowy tan color...not my 1st choice either (or 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th for that matter)...but they were free, won't break, and still work just fine. Funny thing is, she thinks they'll be fine for the house...just not the camper.🤦‍♂️

Wimmins.🤷‍♂️

🙄

[mowerman]

2 hours ago, RowdyRebel said:

LOL! Can't think about rental cars/trucks without thinking about Jeff Foxworthy's bit about 'em...

😂

That guy is hilarious. Thanks for that. I think that’s the same guy that said you couldn’t tell if you’re a redneck if you have six cars and the only thing mobile is your home.

[tjc transport]

yup, that was one of Jeff's classics Bob.

another one of his classics was "if your porch collapses and kills 5 dogs, you may be a redneck"

[1958 F.W.D.]

On 5/13/2023 at 2:58 PM, other dog said:

Thought you might know, since you actually have a 1958 FWD, maybe you could help young Casey from Hellertown out with his project.

You both have forgotten that he already has a 671T in the Hahn. But if I could afford it, I'd replace that with a 237 Maxidyne tomorrow and melt down the weedeater motor into a pool of slag,