mowerman Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 I’m very fortunate that most everything I need is small stuff snd still available Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Also, something rattled loose in the back of my brain, that they use 10W-40 for oil, not ATF or PS fluid. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 Well, it isn’t that a bitch I just added to the reservoir and put power steering fluid in it but I guess it doesn’t matter at this point box and pump are both tired thanks for that Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 My biggest expense is going to be a steering and tires I’ve been collecting parts for years have all the hard to find stuff not sure if you’ve ever noticed passed post found a Rebuilt five and four quad box rebuilt for 350 bucks with the clutch bought 20 years ago the one in there is junk this thing is all ready to start working on any time. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 Now at 67 most of my drive flew out the window lol speaking of roadway air starters, I almost bought a complete system out of one a buddy of mine had along with aB model he was selling … Bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 Funny, you mention motor oil because when I took the lid off the pump that’s what it look like was motor oil Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted July 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2023 15/W40 oil in older steering gears.. newer TRW's were ATF, or something lighter.. yours, Bob is considered OLD... Not you of course,<< 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 Joey, you are very good at blowing smoke up one’s ass ha ha… Bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 Yes, both units need rebuilding so I am not worried about putting the wrong oil in it. Thanks for that Joey. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 With the Ut-Most respect of course...... 🍻 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 I like the bear glasses we are doing that now. Getting ready for a barbecue. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Enjoy the BBQ... I did a few chores.. after sweating my butt off, I fixed an adult beverage, lit the smoker, and dipped in the pool.. I think the chicken looks more relaxed than I was... hope you have a great weekend Bob... Jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoff Weeks Posted July 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 hour ago, mowerman said: Yes, both units need rebuilding so I am not worried about putting the wrong oil in it. Thanks for that Joey. "wrong" oil will not harm it, may leak, that is about all. At least in the short run, might cause more wear if it was in a working truck. Not something that isn't working every day. 10w -30 or 10w 40 is what it calls for. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-533980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 Thanks for all your information. I’m going to try to take a look at it a little later. See if I can find some more numbers in between but tons of weeds. I’m trying to get rid of ha ha Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 The PS box in my R had a axial valve setup instead of a radial valve. When turning the wheel with the engine off, you could see the shaft move up and down in the box. Hardly noticeable when the engine was running, though. Oil was engine oil. Can't remember whose box that was. Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 Thanks for all your help fellas I am for sure. Going to take a look at that box tomorrow and see if I can find any more numbers on it. Remember pump is going to be another story ha ha oh well all in good time. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 9:45 AM, Geoff Weeks said: If you look close, you can see the number cast in just above the pitman shaft (upside down in the photo) the exact model should be stamped on the box behind the Pitman arm, There are a bunch of bolt holes and hopefully some number/letters stamped there, Or at least they were on my 392 boxes. Kind of academic as parts are NLA. Some 392 parts MAY fit, like pitman shaft bushing, but I can't say for sure. Seal kits are different to my knowledge on the higher pressure boxes 392 etc. OK I just went out there all I could find so far. It was three numbers that look like 895 we’re leaving soon to go meet some people I really didn’t want to get too dirty yet. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Could it be 392? That would be nice as parts are available the last time I needed some. It would be a high pressure box. Sometimes the casting numbers are hard to read when they get some age on them. Might have to take a wire brush to it to be sure. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 Right on man thanks for that. Not sure I’ll have to take a closer. Look at it tomorrow for numbers were right around manufacture and location Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 Ok looks like 392 but I’m looking at it through a mirror and upside down Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 That would make your life a lot easier than if it is 39 box. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 OK you got me dancing on the table. I’m going back out there with I drill and a wire brush. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 OK this is what I’m coming up with looking at it through a mirror upside down what are you guys think? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 sheppard box Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 the number is hard for me to see... G.W. may know exactly what it is.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/72901-steering-box-issue/page/2/#findComment-534175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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