Joey Mack Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Mech, glad you are here. Take a look at the other thread im posting in. Its about pulling a RB inj. Pump. I posted some info, but you may/will be able to fine tune the info.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrsmackpaul Posted April 3 Popular Post Share Posted April 3 4 hours ago, Joey Mack said: That's a 2 valve. Million mile engine... The E6 2 valve is commonly regarded as a harder and tougher motor than the 4 valve As they say "she'll pull christ from the cross" or "she'll pull the ass outta the ocean" 2 valves were the very best motors of their era Paul 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, mrsmackpaul said: The E6 2 valve is commonly regarded as a harder and tougher motor than the 4 valve As they say "she'll pull christ from the cross" or "she'll pull the ass outta the ocean" 2 valves were the very best motors of their era Paul Yeah, the 2 valve was much tougher. PLM pumps on the 4 valve kinda sucked too. APE pump was much better 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 20 hours ago, Joey Mack said: I think the E-6 4 Valve came out in 1987. And then in 89-90 the E-7 was born... E6-4V came into production in 1985 if I'm not wrong. And many were equipped with Ambac pumps, Robert Bosch took place closer to 89. Trucks with E6-350 4V were 688 trucks - R688, MR688 etc. Trucks with generally similar EM6-300 4V were 690 trucks - R690, DM690 and so on. 2 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 20 hours ago, mowerman said: I think the E6 was a two valve. I thought they would be more compatible, but they were not that E6 was a running son of a bitch. Well, I finished the velvet adjustment. I was gonna set the timing, but I figured that’s enough for the day. It’s a lousy day with no sun. Ok, no sun - no timing 1 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 another gloomy day,,,i will jump on it first thing in the morning Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 i decided to recheck all my adjustments to make sure i didnt overlook anything,,,since i did the job in 5 or so sessions 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 ive never adjusted timing before i might need some pointers,,,i was just going to follow engine manual instruction's 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, mowerman said: ive never adjusted timing before i might need some pointers,,,i was just going to follow engine manual instruction's Some good reading before the sleep. No kidding 2 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 ok started on it this morning breaking for lunch,,,little by little sure beats working and the time passes quickly lol bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 ok valves are perfect,now,,,pump ,timing will be next,,bob 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/1/2025 at 12:58 PM, mowerman said: and yes ive done absolutely nothing past 4 days weather has not cooperated weather doesn't cooperate and motivation is low !! take a mounted DM tire and roll it up the street then back again;; rain or not!! cost less then gym and results way better. like the "farm boys" carrying the 100lb bales of hay across the field. 2025 is ten yrs since open heart surgery (2015) .heart DR said to me "don't come back here after retirement (2017) 20 lbs heavier, I'm10lbs over ;have put off going back for check up ;;suppose to go back 4 yrs ago. retirement is a challenge in many ways. days go by and the pounds add on. as the parts get older repairs are more difficult (experience talking!!). i'm making an appointment very soon with DR. ; not Dr it will be funeral director. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 oh come on now,,,,,you gotta good shot at going alot further 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 oooooooooooooooooooooo by the way babba,,,welcome back 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 4/2/2025 at 10:39 PM, Joey Mack said: That's a 2 valve. Million mile engine... Hope so joey...mines a 2 valve..... Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted April 5 Popular Post Share Posted April 5 Its all about maintenance with them... And that isnt a lot, just normal care.. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrsmackpaul Posted April 5 Popular Post Share Posted April 5 On 4/4/2025 at 6:36 AM, mowerman said: ive never adjusted timing before i might need some pointers,,,i was just going to follow engine manual instruction's Needs two people as far as I know One at the pump pumping and one turning the motor over slowly backwards and forwards It's called spill timing out here, has been 20 years since I have been involved in doing this Paul 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vladislav Posted April 5 Popular Post Share Posted April 5 6 hours ago, mrsmackpaul said: Needs two people as far as I know One at the pump pumping and one turning the motor over slowly backwards and forwards It's called spill timing out here, has been 20 years since I have been involved in doing this Paul I made that alone. Attached a can of fuel higher than the pump inlet. So the stream was forced by gravity. Very sharp way of setting, a pump shop calibrates plungers that way. But care and attention is needed when removing the delivery valve. And sure a piece of old fuel line. 2 1 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 OK, thanks for that input. I have gone through the manual a little bit and it’s not very clear on anything or at least I’m not reading it right kind of confusing so far and I don’t wanna clean up valve covers and put them back on until I’ve got this right it’s a lot easier to find compression stroke without them on Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Happy Saturday, fellas 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Accessive smoking was the original problem. Norm Taunton suggested I advance the timing a bit, and that will probably cure it He told me that quite a while ago it sounded pretty legitimate to me. But velvet adjustment was also a suggested to me about 45 years ago by an older hand in LA and it worked on the 180 I had at the time I did find one valve that was too tight after second go around originally thought two cylinders off, but I was not going in the proper sequence kind of a long story now I’m just rambling but I did find one valve tight number four cylinder exhaust maybe that’s all it is i’m hoping this issue doesn’t turn into a huge trial and error caper .. bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 4/3/2025 at 3:36 PM, mowerman said: ive never adjusted timing before i might need some pointers,,,i was just going to follow engine manual instruction's American or Robert bosh ? missed description Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 You know, I’m not even sure I believe it’s American I’ll have to let you know a little later. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 9 hours ago, mrsmackpaul said: Needs two people as far as I know One at the pump pumping and one turning the motor over slowly backwards and forwards It's called spill timing out here, has been 20 years since I have been involved in doing this Paul American pump ;after SUPER CLEAN top of pump . remove hold down nut -- 1 1/4 wrench ;pull barrel and needle valve. replace barrel /hold down nut. helper starts the engine turning while watching flywheel marks(degrees). fuel stops flowing from pump ; it's on mark. spill timing complete. for the Robert bosh I remember having a tool for barrel alignment. basically a 3-4 in slotted bar which clamped to #1 cyl also slotted end went over cly2 and three 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 OK, thanks for that Definitely need two people since timing marker is on the flywheel. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73081-finally-some-dm-progress/page/53/#findComment-572918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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