Chrysler V8/R Model Bellhousing

[PMC]

I am curious to know how the Chrysler V8's were attached to the transmissions in the R400 trucks?

Did they use the Mack Trans with and adaptor or a Chrysler product?

Thanks

PMC

[BOBWhite]

I'd just assume that it was a different transmission (not a mack) for gas models. But it could be a Mack trans. I think they had the standard SAE 11 bolt pattern which I'm assuming Chrysler would provide the adapting stuff for. 

Just guesses though. Very interesting topic. 

[Hans Remmers]

There is one at gerhart's that's complete. The shows in a few weeks. Can look at it then.

[Geoff Weeks]

My guess would be they used an SAE#2 bell on the engine. Chry used the 413 in their medium trucks until the bowed out of the market in the 70's. Still make medium trucks in South America last I knew.

 Since they would likely already have a #2 bell for their trucks and/or industrial market for the 413.

[doubleclutchinweasel]

I have nothing to help you.  But, look at the one in this older thread.

 

[doubleclutchinweasel]

Here's a little more.  Has a green one part-way down.

 

[Geoff Weeks]

some of those pic's look like it had a #1 and they used a #1-#2 adapter!

[mowerman]

I got nothing this time. Sorry I’ve only even seen one in my life and that was 30 years ago or so good luck… bob

[mrsmackpaul]

I would be guessing it would be the same motor and transmission used on big block mopar/Dodge trucks in Australia 

No Eaton or Mack transmission, Turner or Dana 

But thats a pure guess and a custom bellhousing to suit the motor 

Paul

[doubleclutchinweasel]

6 hours ago, mrsmackpaul said:

I would be guessing it would be the same motor and transmission used on big block mopar/Dodge trucks in Australia 

No Eaton or Mack transmission, Turner or Dana 

But thats a pure guess and a custom bellhousing to suit the motor 

Paul

A light duty Mack transmission (like a TR-77) was common behind the 413.

Edited September 1, 2023 by doubleclutchinweasel

[doubleclutchinweasel]

Oh, and I think they only built 450 of these 413-equipped units (R410) between 1965 and 1970 (according to the Mack website).

They also list 59 of the DM-410 made between 1966 and 1970.  So, if the numbering system holds true, there are a handful of DMs out there with the Chrysler in them.

All in all, these would be some rare pieces, and would make interesting collectibles.

Edited September 1, 2023 by doubleclutchinweasel

[mowerman]

Frankly, I would change the engine and transmission save a lot of running around and heart ache. Do you still have a big job ahead of you in adjustments but a fun challenge good luck.

[doubleclutchinweasel]

Yep!  Here is a DM with a 413!  I think this is a 1966 model.

Edited September 1, 2023 by doubleclutchinweasel

[Geoff Weeks]

In the Yoos brothers post you can see the bell and trans clearly

 

[doubleclutchinweasel]

Nice!

[doubleclutchinweasel]

That is a VERY informative post, Geoff.

[Geoff Weeks]

Credit goes to you DCW, it was from the link you posted, 2nd page.

[doubleclutchinweasel]

29 minutes ago, Geoff Weeks said:

Credit goes to you DCW, it was from the link you posted, 2nd page.

😄😄😄I didn't read that far down.  LOL!!! 😄😄😄

[Vladislav]

So is that a big SAE (#1?) housing with a round adapting plate?

[Geoff Weeks]

I does look that way, I can't be sure just from a picture. There are commercial #1-#2 adapters made and sold. With a #1 you should be able to put whatever trans you could find a clutch to match the flywheel.

SAE spec determines the clutch depth. Flywheel and clutch would be the limiting factor