Keith S Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I bought a rough and partially assembled '53 B-61T with a END673. The engine supposedly runs/ran. I'm not sure what's coming from the Mack Museum, so I'm looking for diagrams and photos from a running B61 with an END673. Specifically: Fuel injection lines - to and from the pump. This is what I have: See above photo: Engine compartment air lines and routing: See above photo Air intake routing What mounts on top of the exhaust manifold - Engine accessories - generator/alternator brackets. Someone "installed" power steering. Steering gear FYI: I'm not converting it to electric (but I may install electric power steering). 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Lots of guys on here with near-original B-models. I'm sure some of them will be able to get you some detail shots. Not sure about that notch in the frame where the steering box is... Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, doubleclutchinweasel said: Not sure about that notch in the frame where the steering box is... That concerns me also. Generally speaking, you can drill or cut holes in the vertical web of the frame and not loose much strength, but no holes or cuts on the top or bottom flange. That cut right in front of the spring hanger, subject to steering forces is something I would have to address. That has a major hole and multiple minor holes in the web right where the top flange has been removed. Please consult a good frame shop before going further. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith S Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 I'll remove the steering box and weld the notch and fix/fill all the extra side holes. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
70mackMB Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Keith, Didn't you build an electric B model? .....Hippy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith S Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 😁Yes, that's me. A B46 that's a work in progress (still). 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Glad to see you back on again this is a 65B755 with factory shepherd power steering box you’re steering column looks good for the mod if you need measurements or specs for the sector shaft length I can get that the frame mod is not good but you can fix that I will try to get some more pictures from a B model that was converted to a 711 may help a bit Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith S Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 This is exactly the kind pictures I need. That is a serious housing attaching the box to the frame! Thanks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith S Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 Thanks. I see where some of my box of parts are attached. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D is for diesel Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I'm heading for feed on Wednesday. I'll pass by mine and get some close pictures of the engine. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 was just checking how did the electric B mod project come out Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith S Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 I'm upgrading it before it's on the road. More batteries and another motor. I'm working on the B61 to get an idea of where it's at: It's rough and missing a lot of parts - that's why I'm trying to get pictures for the routing of air line, fuel lines, intake air... I finally found some information on the BARTLETT 8A1 lifting 5th wheel: \ Kinda rough with lots of repair welds and extra bracing. Haven't found any documentation on it - the rubber billows (photo below) makes me think in air powered. I finally found an inlet fitting - but nothing fits it. It might be an airline bulkhead fitting - like the fitting for the front brakes . It's the only fitting I haven't tried. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D is for diesel Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D is for diesel Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D is for diesel Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D is for diesel Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D is for diesel Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Awesome pictures, D! That should help him out a good bit. Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D is for diesel Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Here are some pictures of my 61 b61t with dump box and end673p. The only thing in the dash that works is the starting button it's not much in there that I know that works that I could show you. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D is for diesel Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 I put a 89 f150 together that was a frame and cab and an engine with all the harnesses , vacuum lines and everything else in the bed and cab in boxes that the previous owner took apart. I know from experience that good pictures and diagrams help a ton. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D is for diesel Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Need any closer or of certain areas give me a shout Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licensed to kill Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Since you bought the truck as is, you may be unaware that there should be a thin strip separating the two windshields. I have a cab striped down past it's panties and can take some measurements and pics of what it needs to be so you can replace it if you need. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licensed to kill Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, D is for diesel said: I put a 89 f150 together that was a frame and cab and an engine with all the harnesses , vacuum lines and everything else in the bed and cab in boxes that the previous owner took apart. I know from experience that good pictures and diagrams help a ton. Aint that the truth. I striped a Ford model A delivery to the bare frame to resto-mod it and took some pictures along the way to help in reassembly. Unfortunately, I did not take enough and many of the one I DID take, I could not figure out what they were suppose to be when I needed them. In hind sight, what would be nice is if I could have made short videos rather than stills and started out a ways to get my bearings on what part of the truck I was looking at and then zoomed in to the detail I was wanting to capture so I could tell what it was and where on the truck I was looking. Close in shots show the detail but I found often were unrecognizable. Took some pics on my B-61 when I striped IT down to the Fram as well but, again not enough. Fortunately, with the MACK, I have another truck all together (as yard art) to refer to. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D is for diesel Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Licensed to kill said: Aint that the truth. I striped a Ford model A delivery to the bare frame to resto-mod it and took some pictures along the way to help in reassembly. Unfortunately, I did not take enough and many of the one I DID take, I could not figure out what they were suppose to be when I needed them. In hind sight, what would be nice is if I could have made short videos rather than stills and started out a ways to get my bearings on what part of the truck I was looking at and then zoomed in to the detail I was wanting to capture so I could tell what it was and where on the truck I was looking. Close in shots show the detail but I found often were unrecognizable. Took some pics on my B-61 when I striped IT down to the Fram as well but, again not enough. Fortunately, with the MACK, I have another truck all together (as yard art) to refer to. Yea. I have done that to myself too. Videos do help. I've started doing that when I can. I always have the wrong angle or not enough pictures. I always think that I will remember where it goes or it will be put back together tomorrow and then it sits for a week. I did find taking a pic after one thing is taken off helps. Then it's really like a manual too because then you just go backwards in pictures. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licensed to kill Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, D is for diesel said: I always have the wrong angle or not enough pictures. I always think that I will remember where it goes or it will be put back together tomorrow and then it sits for a week. Kindred spirits. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73411-looking-for-photos-of-a-b-61t-with-end673-for-reference/#findComment-540691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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