Joey Mack Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Keep doin what your doing.. if a lifter broke, there will be pieces, when you drop the pan, if it comes down to a cam and H-Rings, we got you covered.. Jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumbull_welding Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 Thank you sir are there any other specialty tools I’ll need besides the h-ring installer? Do you need the puller to get them out? Id like to order them now even if I don’t end up needing them this time around I’ll need them eventually and I rather have them in the tool box ready to go. -Chris 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I knock them out with an aluminum pipe, I check the end of the pipe often for chips that may come off. A wood broom handle may splinter.. you knock them out from the bottom, and install from the top.. if you end up doing cam bushings you will need the driver and handle.. I have all the tool numbers at home.. I buy from freedom racing, Tillman tool, and Monaco tool co. They sell Kent Moore spec'd. tools, jojo 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumbull_welding Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 Awesome thank you I’ll get it ordered up -Chris Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fjh Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 Don't get carried away ordering up stuff till you get the Cam pulled and nail down what you have there ! You may have other issues eup springs or guide pin breakage is also in the cards! pull the eups see if any springs are broke! Just sayin! 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumbull_welding Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Had some bad weather and power outages yesterday oils draining as we speak then I’ll get this pan dropped and update with my findings. Should I set number one to TDC compression before i pull the front rocker shaft? Just so i I know where I’m at once there off -Chris Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 you dont have too,, of course starting on #1 for any reason is always a plus,, you do know that just because the pointer is pointing at 1&6 on the flywheel, doesnt mean you are up on #1.. you could be up on #6.. theres an easy way to tell.... also, in order to see the cam at #3+#4,, its best to remove the oil pump. the torque on those bolts is 35 lbft.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumbull_welding Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Welp looks to me like we lost a couple of those ceramic lifter rollers your were talkin about. And o-ring possibly from an eup? Getting under to get a look at the cam now. -Chris Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) i'm sorry.. if you fix this, i suggest getting cam kit with steel lifters... I would strongly suggest new H-Rings.. all 12... there are 2 oversized H-Rings available.. Do you have an E-Tech engine book? Edited December 19, 2023 by Joey Mack More content needed Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumbull_welding Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 I do not have a book I’ll get one though. Cam looks to be in good shape to me. Assuming I don’t find anything else along the way is it possible to get away with h-rings and lifters? Have to pull the heads to do h-rings correct? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 rotate the engine and watch each lobe.. I thought I saw scratches in the 3rd to last picture.. since this engine ran away for a bit, it may have shattered the rollers but shut down before cam damage happened... (My wishful thinking) Jojo 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Since this is a 2006 I assume the motor is an ASET AC motor, I'd recommend the ASET rebuild/overhaul book over the ETECH one. It'll cover the minor differences on your engine regarding EGR system. The ETECH book doesn't have that info I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Below are screenshots of the ASET AI book and ASET AC books on Mack's emedia website. 5-110 is the AI book 5-111 is the AC book which I assume what your engine is. External EGR system. The AI engines use an extra bump on the exhaust lobes to open the exhaust valves on the intake stroke to suck exhaust back into the engine for reburn. If you have an AI motor then now would be the time to delete the emissions system by going to a pre-ASET camshaft. Later down the road you could do away with the restrictive exhaust manifold and turbo, but this would be the time to do the internal delete. But you probably have an AC motor, which uses a different emissions system. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 You can download the books for free on Mack's emedia website, just Google "Mack emedia ASET AC" and the link will pop right up to my screenshot with the view file link. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 JoeH,, the valve adjustment procedure is different.. he has Power leash.. Jacobs 690 is a different adjustment procedure.. If it is not done correctly, and he has ceramic rollers back in the engine, 30 seconds after he starts the engine, he will be right where he is now.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 any free or cheap books would be great,, the last 3 of these ASET engines that I built, I was able to buy all of the parts from a PAI vendor.. Less than half price. I was at the very last customer last sunday and asked about his truck.. He said it runs great and pulls hard.. I did the build in June of 2022.. I have used PAI on about 20 engines, and have not had to re-do them.. so dont be leary of this brand.. Others here are familiar with PAI, and can give you opinions.. Jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 My Mack dealer uses PAI parts as well I believe 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73659-2006-mack-613-tractor-runaway-oil-in-injection-module-plug/page/2/#findComment-543804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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