The beast Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 So I have an old Mack truck. The title was lost and the previous owner had it titled as a 54. But it has a R600 body. It also has all original interior and engine/transmission (2 stick). I have looked for the serial number on the engine but can’t find it. Can anyone tell me where to find it and what year they think the old Mack is? And how much it is worth. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 It should be stamped back of the engine right behind the rear head good luck … quick guessing value is 8 to 10,000 depending on condition of everything cab looks real good according to the photo it was probably a kit they were putting together in the middle 60s. I’m sure more guys will chime in I believe they call them. BCR’s quite common back then…. bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Serial number of the original truck is usually on the passenger side of the frame rails right behind the front tire… bob 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 are you actually looking for the trucks V.I.N. ? i dont like the can of ether.. thats a bad sign.. how about some pics of the engine, which is probably an E-6.. on the frame behind the right steer tire is the trucks V.I.N. also on that triangular part of the door frame in the picture. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The beast Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 Joey Mack- the ether was never used on the old Mack. We have an old Allis tractor and have had to use it on tractor. I will look for the serial numbers and post a picture of the engine. The engine is strong and starts right up. We have used it a lot to haul big rounds of hay. Usually 16 (1400 lb) bales with no trouble. Probably won’t get to post engine picture until Tuesday as it is Easter today and have grandkids coming down. Thanks for the info everyone. I appreciate it!! 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Right on man have a ball truck looks real good condition …. Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 67RModel Posted March 31 Popular Post Share Posted March 31 The engine serial number is stamped into a ledge in the engine block casting just above the water pump housing on the front right. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 another possibility in conversation it may be a '64 not '54. was involved in two B C R conversions ; this could be a BCR. which for info stands for B model converted to R model. does have the B model radiator -looking at the two front side spacers used in very early R's still having B model components. much like a '66 DM being restored. on BMT.😇 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Yeah, I noticed the outer panels were definitely BCR. I’m sure this guy is gonna get an earful , but I’m sure that’s what he’s looking for. Happy Easter. Mecho… bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 study the pictures show a lot of B model; or confusing could be a very early R. front axle hub caps/ early style R heavy one piece hood and the Mack name front and sides. can't judge by the interior== a BCR comes completely groomed (if ordered as such). 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Mecho forgot to mention it depends on what year the engine is location of their numbers mine are behind the rear head on the block Bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 minutes ago, mowerman said: Yeah, I noticed the outer panels were definitely BCR. I’m sure this guy is gonna get an earful , but I’m sure that’s what he’s looking for. Happy Easter. Mecho… bob would not go with definitely a BCR;; your DM also has radiator side panels if I recall correctly. also number one R model ==R607T- 1001 has the side panels since that is one very early R having many B model parts. HAPPY EASTER to You also Sir. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 minutes ago, mowerman said: Mecho forgot to mention it depends on what year the engine is location of their numbers mine are behind the rear head on the block Bob The engine numbers on back of block means it was ordered for a cab over, conventional was right in front of injection pump on the rounded part of the block terry 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I was a young kid there was a lotta law transportation, u models running around my town with the hubcaps so apparently they were still using them for the early new styles Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The beast Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 Thanks for the information everyone. The neighbor borrowed it to haul some big rounds home so I haven’t got a chance to look at the engine block yet for numbers but I will as soon as he brings it back. Here is a picture of drivers side of engine this was when we first went and got it the other side has the Mack logo on the engine it needed new batteries but fired right up Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 these latest pictures favor more the B C R idea. 1- those radiator front side panels look to be VERY EARLY change over or homemade. solid metal work not factory metal with imitation grooves pressed in. 2- other then someone installed an alternator, engine goes to the "B" model family. early intake manifold/ much older oil filter.3- radiator smaller B style having framework around it going to fire wall. 4- older style shutter stat. 5- oil fill on front valve cover; not side of block,6- non turbo? . 7- radiator fill =older version. 7- starter might be on passenger side; can't see in picture. still a real nice unit. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I think mechohaulic pegged it!👍 terry 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I will put a serious attempt to go over to #1 R-607T =1001 and take some pictures for comparison . #1 is not a BCR and memory cannot compare these two. I know it does NOT have the short oil filter. another project has taken monday (possibly beyond LOL). keep searching recommended locations for a vin/ serial number. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The beast Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 Thanks mechohaulic! Yes it does not have a turbo. Still waiting for the neighbor to bring her back so I can search for the serial /VIN numbers. I will post more engine pics when he returns the old girl. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/4/2024 at 7:44 AM, mechohaulic said: these latest pictures favor more the B C R idea. 1- those radiator front side panels look to be VERY EARLY change over or homemade. solid metal work not factory metal with imitation grooves pressed in. 2- other then someone installed an alternator, engine goes to the "B" model family. early intake manifold/ much older oil filter.3- radiator smaller B style having framework around it going to fire wall. 4- older style shutter stat. 5- oil fill on front valve cover; not side of block,6- non turbo? . 7- radiator fill =older version. 7- starter might be on passenger side; can't see in picture. still a real nice unit. I guess that was what I was trying to say the BCR has its own panels different than mine… bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/4/2024 at 2:33 PM, terry said: I think mechohaulic pegged it!👍 terry That’s very interesting thanks for that… bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 3/31/2024 at 7:35 AM, terry said: The engine numbers on back of block means it was ordered for a cab over, conventional was right in front of injection pump on the rounded part of the block terry Sorry, answered the wrong one… bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74005-where-is-the-serial-number-on-mack-engine/#findComment-549606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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