Armo325 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Greetings. I have been lurking on the site for some time and was hoping I might get some help from all you experts. The short version: Does anyone have suggestions for how I might track down any information about the specific trucks owned by Cayuga Bulk Service, Inc. The longer version: My grandfather was president of Cayuga Bulk Service, Inc., a bulk trucking company based in upstate NY, from when he founded the company in 1952 to when he sold it in 1995. My father drove for the company for many years when I was a kid. I still have very clear, fond memories of the sights, smell, and sound of those beautiful trucks. During my childhood, his fleet was almost exclusively R model day cab tractors. Around the end of his time with the company, he had a couple Superliners and CH600 series tractors, some with sleepers. As I have gotten older, I have fallen in love with the idea of restoring an R model tractor identical to the tractors my grandfather and father drove back in the day. I don't know what I would do with it if I actually succeeded in this endeavor but that's a question for later. In a perfect world, I could find one of his actual trucks but I doubt many of them are still around. One with similar/identical specs would work. I have no experience with heavy commercial trucks but consider myself reasonably capable and can learn. I believe the trucks were all purchased from the Beam Mack dealership in Syracuse, NY. I recognize this is not very much information. Does anyone have any thoughts on how I might track down information on these trucks? Google has not been helpful and I'm open to ideas. Thank you in advance for your help, kind strangers. 2 Quote Alex Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavCut Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 You have a good start posting your question @Armo325 Eric aka @DailyDiesel might be a good resource for you. He knows of a lot of the honey holes of antique trucks in the greater Syracuse area. Good luck with your hunt! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 fortunately for you , the Family history is more motivation then most have. to just buy a truck close and stare at it at shows is great . having your goals of keeping history alive will conquer all. will take time . being your location shows FL while searching for a new england fleet / info makes as your finding out more challenging. being in the NY area going to local shows would possibly gain info just by conversation. I worked at a CT Mack dealer '69=75 ; can't recall that fleet name .also to duplicate the R model , any pictures of an actual truck would help. single axle/ tandem etc. drive train wouldn't be as important. your goal is appearance duplication Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 This fleet was probably around The Finger Lakes in New York. Likely Lake Cayuga and was involved in salt one way or another. Most of those fleets, the trucks rusted away to nothing. There were a lot of guys employed by them though, and some are probably still around. Lots of Macks were used in those operations . If Armo's lucky, Brocky might have some input on this subject. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 salt trucks rusted away to nothing OR were shipped over seas where they were like brand new . recently looked at a superliner which I knew the fleet . never thought salt could jack a double frame under the fifth wheel to separate over 3/4 of inch. trucks not bad shape ,but no possible way to save frame. don't think new owner will expense the job. it was bought as a parts truck for his other super . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I cannot help much although I was born and raised in the Ithaca area. I remember Cayuga Rock Salt and my family knew a family who worked in the mines. I moved out of the area in the mid 60's and like has been said above most of those trucks have probably rusted away to nothing.. My best thought is to find a decent R model and have it painted in Cayuga livery. Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armo325 Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 Thanks for the thoughts and questions. All of the tractors my grandfather had were tandem axle trucks. He got most of his business (when I was around) moving bulk grain/feed between Watertown and Buffalo, NY. He obviously had a lot of trucks over that long timespan but most of my memories were in the mid to late 80s so those are the tractors I’m focused on I’ll see if I can find a photo somewhere Great points about the salt. I’d be happy with a comparable truck to build up like the old company ones. I live in Florida now but have spent a career (that’s still going) in the military so I won’t be here long. My mom still lives in central NY so getting back up there isn’t tough. 1 Quote Alex Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
70mackMB Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Welcome Armo325! Hey l didn't find a truck but l did find a hat!! lol .....Hippy https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-CAYUGA-BULK-SERVICE-INC-Trucker-Hat-Snapback-Cap-Screen-Print-6503a9f156b2f8146c00fd20 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb73lt Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I would suggest contacting local chapters of the ATCA and ATHS in the areas of your company. Members may have direct knowledge or know some former drivers. Local Historical societies may also be of help with archive information of the company, photographs, locations anf names of people that worked for them. Ask around, you never know what you might uncover. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 If you happen to be in upstate NY the second weekend of August go to the Brockway Weekend in Cortland / Homer NY and start visiting with people. 2 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Good luck man I was thinking about trying to find my pops old ride myself back in the 80s but I moved to California 45 years ago kind of hard to do …..these days with the internet is a little easier good luck… bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yarnall Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 On 5/12/2024 at 7:49 PM, Brocky said: If you happen to be in upstate NY the second weekend of August go to the Brockway Weekend in Cortland / Homer NY and start visiting with people. I don’t know if Brocky gave you the best advice. The brockway guys are really nice until you start talking about Macks. Good luck in your search. Mike 1 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 10 minutes ago, yarnall said: I don’t know if Brocky gave you the best advice. The brockway guys are really nice until you start talking about Macks. Good luck in your search. Mike I went to Cortland last year, looking forward to this year- if I'm still around;; one of the best shows. I went "incognito; no Mack advertising shirt. LOL; possibly try another approach with asking about the company - not a Mack?? 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I remember a lot of orange R's with red fenders in that area hauling bulk trailers. Might have been a different company though. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 22 minutes ago, james j neiweem said: I remember a lot of orange R's with red fenders in that area hauling bulk trailers. Might have been a different company though. They might have been the Fort something(??) fleet out of the north side of Albany NY by lake George???????? Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockmen027 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) Brocky, you would be thinking of Fort Edward Express, once huge but not now so much. They were big in all petroleum especially #6 Black Oil and Propane, and also house Carrier for Glens Falls Cement. They still operate but a shadow of themselves. Edited May 15 by dockmen027 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armo325 Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 On 5/14/2024 at 8:43 AM, james j neiweem said: I remember a lot of orange R's with red fenders in that area hauling bulk trailers. Might have been a different company though. Cayuga Bulk Service was all navy blue tractors with white letters. Most of the trailers were either grain hoppers or walking floor bulk trailers. My grandpa was loyal to Mack tractors and Fruehauf trailers. He had a few other trailers but that’s what I remember. Back then, his trucks looked very similar to those from Barr Transportation which might still be around. I’m still searching for photos. Thank you again for so many responses. I’ll get more info to you as soon as I can find some. Quote Alex Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) Another lead might be Level Green Transportation (Paul Crispell) outside the hamlet Caroline NY.. I do Not know if they have a Brooktondale, Berkshire or Newark Valley address. They are right in the corner where they all meet.. The older kids went to Newark Valley to high school and the younger ones went to Ithaca..They also are in the Agri trucking business and might know of Cayuga????? Edited May 16 by Brocky Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamin dd Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Cayuga Bulk haul feed for Beacon Mills. The elevator was in Cayuga NY. Cayuga Bulk was about 1 mile north on NY RT. 90. On west side of road just south of Rt 5&20. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Since they were in the feed and grain business and NOT the Rock Salt I first assumed possibly some of their equipment is still around.. 1 1 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 20 hours ago, Armo325 said: Cayuga Bulk Service was all navy blue tractors with white letters. Most of the trailers were either grain hoppers or walking floor bulk trailers. My grandpa was loyal to Mack tractors and Fruehauf trailers. He had a few other trailers but that’s what I remember. Back then, his trucks looked very similar to those from Barr Transportation which might still be around. I’m still searching for photos. Thank you again for so many responses. I’ll get more info to you as soon as I can find some. Barr is pretty much switched over to Freightliners. Still same blue though. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74150-help-finding-r-model-information-for-old-central-ny-company/#findComment-551851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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