vinny933 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 My 2019 granite triaxle dumptruck didn't come with transverse torque rod, saddles wore out spring guy says i should have one.its a heavy thick single frame.should I have one installed? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mechohaulic Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 my answer is a yes. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Joey Mack Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 is the frame pre-drilled for the mount that is needed? 16mm (5/8'') holes in your case about 3 1/2 inches apart.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 880joe Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 Does the rearend have the bracket for one? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vinny933 Posted August 10 Author Share Posted August 10 It doesn't have the bracket nor pre drilled holes Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Joey Mack Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Good question, some of the carriers were not drilled and threaded for the torque arm bracket. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vinny933 Posted August 10 Author Share Posted August 10 I talked to a few friends have same trucks different years and they have it , seems in 2019 models they didn't put one Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Joey Mack Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 I dont know how you would make it work. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vinny933 Posted August 10 Author Share Posted August 10 Spring guy says he could put one if bracket bolts to the rear, guess I'm gonna call dealer monday and ask Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Joey Mack Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 I would love to see it when its done.. I am curious how this will be done without replacing the rear carier. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mechohaulic Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 did the carrier style change ?? there should /might be the four (5/8 or metric) threaded holes on back side of carrier . rear rear bracket goes over/around the plate.front rear drop intermediate shaft install bracket reinstall driveshaft;;or am I on a "different page "/? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mechohaulic Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 38 minutes ago, vinny933 said: It doesn't have the bracket nor pre drilled holes what kind / size of rear ends does this truck have ?? Mack or ??? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Joey Mack Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Yes Mech, the rear carierers are not drilled and pluged with short bolts any more.. Dont know what year that started, but it wasnt too long ago.. It is stupid.. it takes away options, I think that the rear output hole is eliminated too.. I guess if you wanted to build a tri-drive, you would have to buy new carrieers.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mechohaulic Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 just mind boggling for me as an old man to see the cost cutting things happening in to days world. eliminating four bolt holes . bad as no more dip sticks on engines !!WTF . picked up some brakes shoes for trailer 2 weeks ago ; had to check box ::1-make sure right parts inside;; 2- see if hardware kits included= some aren't.. so glad i'm on short end of stick of life cycle. no predrilled or place to anchor bracket is a challenge wrong mounting will break / damage something. does this have light rears or something ?? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vinny933 Posted August 10 Author Share Posted August 10 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Popular Post Joey Mack Posted August 10 Popular Post Share Posted August 10 thats better,,, those 4 bolts com out and the bracket mounts there, and you take a bolt out on the carrier mounting bolts and add a longer bolt to hold the bracket at that point.. the temp sensor is in the drain hole for draining the oil. no biggie, just know that.. 1 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mark T Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 They get studs and nuts in the carrier , don't they ? Then a couple bolts go down into the housing. That one's a easy one to fit a rod to. (carrier has holes) Won't bother that single frame one bit as long as all the correct grade bolts are used and tightened as they should be. ( your spring guy made a good suggestion ) 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 terry Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 I wonder if you do that cross torque rod you should do it on both rear ends, I have seen where it was added on the back rear only and the frame cracked between the two holes drilled in the frame for the bracket? Terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mechohaulic Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 On 8/10/2024 at 7:56 PM, Mark T said: They get studs and nuts in the carrier , don't they ? Then a couple bolts go down into the housing. That one's a easy one to fit a rod to. (carrier has holes) Won't bother that single frame one bit as long as all the correct grade bolts are used and tightened as they should be. ( your spring guy made a good suggestion ) these topics sure help an ole mans memory come back to life, 4 bolts are removed and the 4 studs installed with 5/8 fine thread nuts out /course thread in to housing .. now I can't remember if it's "safe" to remove ALL 4 bolts same time or remove two and install two studs then remove other two bolts ??? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mechohaulic Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 23 hours ago, terry said: I wonder if you do that cross torque rod you should do it on both rear ends, I have seen where it was added on the back rear only and the frame cracked between the two holes drilled in the frame for the bracket? Terry both should be done. front rear end requires intermediate driveshaft to be disconnected from front rear output . NOT completely removed just front side to allow bracket to be installed. both rears will work together better having sway control on each. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 The Heinz Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 If you send me the VIN or last 6 of it, I can see what Impact shows your truck having installed. I don't think I've seen a truck without a torque rod, regardless of suspension setup. That might be a case worth taking to Mack, just don't expect them to care. We don't have the Mack that cared about their image anymore. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mark T Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 3 hours ago, The Heinz said: If you send me the VIN or last 6 of it, I can see what Impact shows your truck having installed. I don't think I've seen a truck without a torque rod, regardless of suspension setup. That might be a case worth taking to Mack, just don't expect them to care. We don't have the Mack that cared about their image anymore. I could be wrong, but I think a lot of those white dump trucks with the Ox bodies on them were made without torque rods. There were lots of places those trucks were cheaped out on. Most I saw up here looked like somebody glued a third axle on them to flip them as tri-axles. Then here in Pa @ 73000 pounds the rear suspension lasted about 2 weeks. Where ever they were from down south, as tandems they must not have carried much. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vinny933 Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 7 hours ago, The Heinz said: If you send me the VIN or last 6 of it, I can see what Impact shows your truck having installed. I don't think I've seen a truck without a torque rod, regardless of suspension setup. That might be a case worth taking to Mack, just don't expect them to care. We don't have the Mack that cared about their image anymore. 011521 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 The Heinz Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 You're right, I didn't see one in Impact. It may be the early morning brain fog, but do camelback suspensions usually have a transverse torque rod? I can't remember if they do or not. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 terry Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, The Heinz said: You're right, I didn't see one in Impact. It may be the early morning brain fog, but do camelback suspensions usually have a transverse torque rod? I can't remember if they do or not. Camelback can have the transverse rods, i guess it depends if it was ordered that way or put on later. terry 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-556998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Vladislav Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, The Heinz said: You're right, I didn't see one in Impact. It may be the early morning brain fog, but do camelback suspensions usually have a transverse torque rod? I can't remember if they do or not. It depends on the load capacity. I can judge by 80's years trucks and earlier times. Camelbacks of 38000 and lighter didn't have that traverse rod, only two from carriers to the central stand. A couple suspensions I have with thick spring leaves and brass trunnion bushings, my guess is #44000 are equipped with one transverse rod, at the RR carrier. the trucks are '88 DMM and "91 RD with heavy frame. Also I don't remember seeing Camelbacks with transverse rods to both carriers. Air rides have them but that's a different story. 1 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74446-transverse-torque-rod/#findComment-557000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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My 2019 granite triaxle dumptruck didn't come with transverse torque rod, saddles wore out spring guy says i should have one.its a heavy thick single frame.should I have one installed?
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