Mark T Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 Good work Bob. I don't ever remember seeing that. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 That is a rare engine, a 350 two valve engine, have to agree with that line from intake to downdraft tube. Terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 23 hours ago, Licensed to kill said: Thanks. If your engine dies NOT have that hose I would be interested in what it has in the two ports that this hose is useing. I finished late last night and it was pissing down with rain this morning I'll check tonight and report back, if mine doesn't have the hose I'll check my mates as his R600 has never been apart from new, only 400,000 km from new, still very original Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 27 minutes ago, mrsmackpaul said: I finished late last night and it was pissing down with rain this morning I'll check tonight and report back, if mine doesn't have the hose I'll check my mates as his R600 has never been apart from new, only 400,000 km from new, still very original Paul You should probably get several pictures of the truck with the 400,000 km on it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 Okay, a cracker of a day so had a captain Cook Now remember my truck has the steering wheel on the correct side unlike the U.S. trucks I only mention this because our trucks might be plumbed a little different The breather on the rocker cover on mine has no holes for hoses, it does have spots cast into it and the casting numbers 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 But wait theres more So were do these air lines go Green circled airline goes to the gear box, reverse, first Red circled airline goes to the injector pump rack Now crusieliner 64 Paul This looks like a simple piston type of deal, I can see bleed holes etc to let air out and or in Yours should be a piece of piss to fix over a few pints of your favourite larger Bellow is the air line to my boost gauge Hang on I'll zoom in on this Dunno if any of this helps, bit old mate the sorted your motor has jiggered up the plumbing department Licensed to thrill your missing a (as the younger set say out here) "a shit ton of boost" I wonder if the breather is for a cab over type of deal, possibly a garbage truck Dunno if this helps or not But everything is a bonus While sorting the pics I spied this a wee distance away Yeah a boom of a crane, woopty bloody do Paul Okay a bit more, fresh meat lol Not a cool power, but still cool enough Paul 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 On 11/10/2024 at 9:30 AM, Licensed to kill said: I apologize for the confusion. Yesterday I posted “It appears that the title of this thread has caused some confusion. I only mentioned the tip turbine because, of course, the entire intake system between the turbo and head is unique to this system and it is so where in that system that a port will be if one already exists.” To try to clear it up but let me say, this is not about the tip turbine it is about finding a good signal source for a boost gauge. yup sure did! your not using the puff limiter why not use that hole!??? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBWhite Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 More stuff I found about the mystery tube: On pages 17/18 it shows this threaded hole Sorry I hope I didn't highjack your thread too much! What were we talking about again? Something about a boost gauge? lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 5 hours ago, BOBWhite said: More stuff I found about the mystery tube: On pages 17/18 it shows this threaded hole Sorry I hope I didn't highjack your thread too much! What were we talking about again? Something about a boost gauge? lol That's perfect for me, I picked up a set of Jakes for mine maybe 12 months ago No paper work until today Thank you Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Interesting pic Paul.The Puff Limiter on our EM6 is leaking air from a small hole on the cylinder thats screwed into the injector pump.see photo.We're told this cylinder cant be overhauled.We blocked off the air line from the valve on the inlet manifold to stop the leak.... Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Mate I dunno, if it was made, it can be over hauled I dunno, I'll have a hunt around for a E6 manual I think it will be only a crook o ring Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licensed to kill Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 On 11/13/2024 at 2:40 AM, mrsmackpaul said: But wait theres more So were do these air lines go Green circled airline goes to the gear box, reverse, first Red circled airline goes to the injector pump rack Now crusieliner 64 Paul This looks like a simple piston type of deal, I can see bleed holes etc to let air out and or in Yours should be a piece of piss to fix over a few pints of your favourite larger Bellow is the air line to my boost gauge Hang on I'll zoom in on this Dunno if any of this helps, bit old mate the sorted your motor has jiggered up the plumbing department Licensed to thrill your missing a (as the younger set say out here) "a shit ton of boost" I wonder if the breather is for a cab over type of deal, possibly a garbage truck Dunno if this helps or not But everything is a bonus While sorting the pics I spied this a wee distance away Yeah a boom of a crane, woopty bloody do Paul Okay a bit more, fresh meat lol Not a cool power, but still cool enough Paul Do you know where those air lines from the puff limiter go? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 15 hours ago, cruiseliner64 said: Interesting pic Paul.The Puff Limiter on our EM6 is leaking air from a small hole on the cylinder thats screwed into the injector pump.see photo.We're told this cylinder cant be overhauled.We blocked off the air line from the valve on the inlet manifold to stop the leak.... Paul There is no overhauling that it was sold as a unit! Un screw it ! Youll see how it is! Hint a a 9/16 fine bolt will fit the hole ! if the rod is protruding with no air to it it will not let the engine have full fuel! Just sayin! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 2 hours ago, fjh said: There is no overhauling that it was sold as a unit! Un screw it ! Youll see how it is! Hint a a 9/16 fine bolt will fit the hole ! if the rod is protruding with no air to it it will not let the engine have full fuel! Just sayin! Thats interesting.if we put a bolt in to restrict the rack movement how will it affect the trucks performance?..and cold starting?thanks for the hint. Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 2 hours ago, Licensed to kill said: Do you know where those air lines from the puff limiter go? Sorry, I thought I explained that The one with the badly drawn red circle goes to the little air ram on the injector pump that limits travel until you get boost or are out of reverse and 1st gear The green line goes to the fear box, reverse and 1st gear doohickie The uncircled line is the air supply to the puff limiter doohickie To be honest I only looked at these for a few minutes and relied on my memory Paul 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 1 hour ago, cruiseliner64 said: Thats interesting.if we put a bolt in to restrict the rack movement how will it affect the trucks performance?..and cold starting?thanks for the hint. Paul The bolt must not be thread in all the way no deeper that the cylinder it’s self! Also I maybe wrong on the thread it may be coarse thread! Been a long time since I had to mess with one of these! We used to put a 9/16 flat washer behind the cylinder to speed up take off ! It would make the cylinder retract faster than the rack ! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 2 hours ago, fjh said: The bolt must not be thread in all the way no deeper that the cylinder it’s self! Also I maybe wrong on the thread it may be coarse thread! Been a long time since I had to mess with one of these! We used to put a 9/16 flat washer behind the cylinder to speed up take off ! It would make the cylinder retract faster than the rack ! Isn't that what you're supposed to adjust with shims ? I think I remember a diaphram being in that cylinder too. I'd be real surprised if any of that stuff is still available . 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 15 minutes ago, Mark T said: Isn't that what you're supposed to adjust with shims ? I think I remember a diaphram being in that cylinder too. I'd be real surprised if any of that stuff is still available . Yup the extension dimension is stamped on the pump at the top! Hence the washer behind the cylinder! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 42 minutes ago, Mark T said: Isn't that what you're supposed to adjust with shims ? I think I remember a diaphram being in that cylinder too. I'd be real surprised if any of that stuff is still available . So far it isnt...we cant find one anywhere.we are interested in trying fjh's idea see how that goes.... Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 13 minutes ago, cruiseliner64 said: So far it isnt...we cant find one anywhere.we are interested in trying fjh's idea see how that goes.... Paul So remove the bimbo cylinder and inspect it if it is not protruding ! Put it back in and cap the line to it! There appears to be no shims behind that from what I can see! Put a thin washer behind the cylinder and put it back in with some silicone or pipe sealer on the treads! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licensed to kill Posted November 15 Author Share Posted November 15 6 hours ago, mrsmackpaul said: Sorry, I thought I explained that The one with the badly drawn red circle goes to the little air ram on the injector pump that limits travel until you get boost or are out of reverse and 1st gear The green line goes to the fear box, reverse and 1st gear doohickie The uncircled line is the air supply to the puff limiter doohickie To be honest I only looked at these for a few minutes and relied on my memory Paul I went back and re-read your previous post and, yes, you did explain it there. Somehow, when I read that it went right over my head and I wasn’t following. Don’t know why as it seems pretty clear now. My engine had the supply line but both others were plugged. Of course I have no provisions for that on my trans but I also don’t see any place on the injection pump for an air line either. It is possible that the pump was changed for one without this provision and that could be why the port on the limiter is plugged. I dunno. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 16 minutes ago, Licensed to kill said: I went back and re-read your previous post and, yes, you did explain it there. Somehow, when I read that it went right over my head and I wasn’t following. Don’t know why as it seems pretty clear now. My engine had the supply line but both others were plugged. Of course I have no provisions for that on my trans but I also don’t see any place on the injection pump for an air line either. It is possible that the pump was changed for one without this provision and that could be why the port on the limiter is plugged. I dunno. Is your pump Ambac or Robert Bosch? This was used on both at one point however later on they changed to the lda style more universal to other manufacturers! Like Cummins and John deer! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licensed to kill Posted November 15 Author Share Posted November 15 52 minutes ago, fjh said: Is your pump Ambac or Robert Bosch? This was used on both at one point however later on they changed to the lda style more universal to other manufacturers! Like Cummins and John deer! No idea what pump is on this engine and do not know how to identify it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 On 11/14/2024 at 11:08 AM, cruiseliner64 said: Interesting pic Paul.The Puff Limiter on our EM6 is leaking air from a small hole on the cylinder thats screwed into the injector pump.see photo.We're told this cylinder cant be overhauled.We blocked off the air line from the valve on the inlet manifold to stop the leak.... Paul Do you want me to see if I can get you one of these new and pop it in the mail to you ? I have done things like this before for people on here Australia seems to have better access to this stuff new than the U.S. Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 4 hours ago, mrsmackpaul said: Do you want me to see if I can get you one of these new and pop it in the mail to you ? I have done things like this before for people on here Australia seems to have better access to this stuff new than the U.S. Paul Yes Paul that would be great if you could.just let me know price and shipping and ill get it to you... Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74727-tip-turbine-boost/page/3/#findComment-561997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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