hicrop10 Posted Thursday at 10:25 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:25 PM I am thinking of doing this to make the painting that much easier.Has anyone here done it before.It doesn’t look all that tough to do.My biggest concern is it has 65,000 lbs rears and canal back suspension.The truck has moved 100 ton before so I’m concerned with anything springing and not able to get it back together. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted yesterday at 12:09 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:09 AM if you have the set up and capabilities to SAFELY separate the units; would definitely be a better way to go. can check for worn parts etc . 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted yesterday at 01:48 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:48 AM I have never done a Mack camelback suspension but i'v done a lot of Hino rear suspension which is very similar.(almost a copy with a few small differences in my opinion).It is very heavy work and a lot of lifting gear,forklift,jacks and cribin is needed as well as an inch air socket tool.As Mechohaulic said its a great oppertunity to check all the wear parts and do a great paint job.Good luck with it and if you do it put plenty of pictures.The truck looks great by the way... Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted 18 hours ago Author Share Posted 18 hours ago crusieliner64, I don’t think any of the parts that may be worn out would be available.I am mostly doing this to get the paint job right.I know that no one will be crawling under the rears to look and the fifth wheel will cover most of the top but I will know. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 8 minutes ago, hicrop10 said: crusieliner64, I don’t think any of the parts that may be worn out would be available.I am mostly doing this to get the paint job right.I know that no one will be crawling under the rears to look and the fifth wheel will cover most of the top but I will know. Yeah I totaly get you there.I am the very same.. just want it to be spot on.I was just pointing out it is a big job but its great satisfaction to know its done.I was inquiring about Camelback parts for our Cruiseliner and I was told theyre still availible.Our truck is plated for 150ton operation so it would be same as yours maybe??? Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago The only thing holding the bogies on is the two trunnion caps underneath the trunnion bar right,once removed jack up the rails disconnect drive shaft,and air lines and roll em out.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted 11 hours ago Author Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, MACKS said: The only thing holding the bogies on is the two trunnion caps underneath the trunnion bar right,once removed jack up the rails disconnect drive shaft,and air lines and roll em out.. Mack’s,no removing the caps won’t do it.I have to remove the 10-1 1/2 locking nut and the 2 torque rods on top.Then I will be able to slide them out. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Frankly, I don’t think it’s worth the effort to do all that for a very little gain, but it’s your decision. You can’t really do much more than you already did to get at everything. But then again, if you do not pull it apart, you will be laying awake Knight thinking about it or at least I would be….. As far as you’re going with that truck, why not just go for it I know an entire paragraph and I pretty much said nothing to help ha ha good luck bud. Great progress. Let’s keep it up. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, MACKS said: The only thing holding the bogies on is the two trunnion caps underneath the trunnion bar right,once removed jack up the rails disconnect drive shaft,and air lines and roll em out.. Wow that sounds really handy.Taking them out of a Hino double drive is a lot more involved than that...but then when I was doing them it was for full rebuilds so if your not taking them apart then thats the way to go... Paul Edited 10 hours ago by cruiseliner64 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Yup torque rods to but what 10.5 locking nut,I’m talking about the. Trunnion caps under the truck not the ones on the ends of the bar, probably a better word for the ones I’m talking about.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Ok my bad, u want to remove the A frame also,man I wouldn’t attempt that..lol 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted 8 hours ago Author Share Posted 8 hours ago The a frames stay attached to the bogies.I’m not talking about taking the leaf springs apart,once I remove the bogies I will be able to get everything blasted and painted. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago ok that makes more sense Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I'd be real surprised if that frame sprung an eighth of an inch. Looks like the angles for the fifth wheel and rear crossmember and the end plates welded on the back would have to come off. Then slide it all out the back in one piece. All I can picture in my head right now is the Proctor truck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Well good luck and I hope u take a lot of pictures. along the way.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago Well I’m going for it.Breaking out the 1” airgun,if that doesn’t do it I’ll add a little heat to the nuts and hopefully they come off. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1961H67 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago It will make a more detailed job, plus you can get the sand out of all the hidden areas. Paint it separate and throw you some new bolts in it when you reassemble , that’s the icing on the cake. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/74779-separate-the-frame-and-bogies/#findComment-562399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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