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Ford Europe is different than anything you will see in America. 

same with Ford Australia, and Ford Brazil. 

still Ford Motor Company, but different car lines and different emissions and crash standards. 

when you are up to your armpits in alligators,

it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp..

7 hours ago, 70mackMB said:

l'm a bit confused here. ls this CEO talking about the USA sales only?    .....Hippy

Ford CEO Admits No One Wants EV Trucks & Vans: ‘For larger retail, electric utilities, the economics are unresolvable’

https://www.climatedepot.com/2025/02/19/ford-ceo-admits-no-one-wants-ev-trucks-vans-for-larger-retail-electric-utilities-the-economics-are-unresolvable/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ford-ceo-admits-no-one-wants-ev-trucks-vans-for-larger-retail-electric-utilities-the-economics-are-unresolvable

Id say he is right.....

Paul

yes ford has preached over here,,,nobody wants EV heavy trucks,,,and even thier cars are not selling,so far people with F150s are saying EVs are saying once you put a travel trailer behind them,,,the batterys drain right out,,bob

On 2/20/2025 at 3:50 AM, 70mackMB said:

l'm a bit confused here. ls this CEO talking about the USA sales only?    .....Hippy

Ford CEO Admits No One Wants EV Trucks & Vans: ‘For larger retail, electric utilities, the economics are unresolvable’

https://www.climatedepot.com/2025/02/19/ford-ceo-admits-no-one-wants-ev-trucks-vans-for-larger-retail-electric-utilities-the-economics-are-unresolvable/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ford-ceo-admits-no-one-wants-ev-trucks-vans-for-larger-retail-electric-utilities-the-economics-are-unresolvable

The SWISS, international concrete and cement giant Holcim in Australia not long ago was given to trial or bought an electric concrete mixer truck with the barrel mounted. I did not get the name of the truck make.

It was a twin steer and tandem drive. Loaded with concrete to the allowed legal gross weight - net concrete loaded was 4.2 cubic metres. All the same diesel engine mixer trucks, twin steer and tandem drive, carry up 7.8 metres legally. Nearly a half load less!!!!!! It did ONE load and was never seen at any concrete plant thereafter. There was no information about how it actually performed delivering the concrete to site or how much battery power was used.

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On 2/20/2025 at 3:27 AM, kscarbel2 said:

The spirit and enthusiasm of the people at Ford-Otosan is amazing. It reminds me of the US market in the 1970s and 1980s, when people used to enjoy going to work and selling trucks.

I can't help but wonder if Otosan would be better off if they could get out from under Ford at this point and align with Traton or Daimler, at least on the commercial truck side.  Otosan's impressive commercial trucks are a home-grown effort, I see very little support or involvement from Ford other than the 'Ford' emblems on the trucks and a periodic mention of the operation around shareholder meeting time.  Otosan is a small regional truck manufacturer with impressive product and good market share where they are active, but no way will Ford ever bring them to North America.  I believe Otosan is still the lead manufacturing center for the Transit in Europe, but with Ford's European market share plummeting to 3.3% the business case for staying in Europe is becoming difficult.  Should Ford pull out perhaps Otosan could maintain the Transit franchise in Europe themselves or with another partner.  With Ford under Farley in the U.S. being such a hot mess these days perhaps the right move for Ford would be to sell off all European operations and spend the money where it's really needed, paying for warranty work in North America.  I'll bet Stellantis would buy it!            

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