2014pinnacle Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Hi guys I have 2016 pinnacle with a twin y suspension it needs new bushings anyone know where I can purchase them my dealer says theirs none available and no idea when they could have them. The suspension shop the truck is at claim nobody after market makes them and I’ve been looking myself and that seems to be true Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Look on line at ATRO.. they have a great product. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 What is a twin Y suspension? Terry 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 11 minutes ago, terry said: What is a twin Y suspension? Terry Known as the V-Ride or M-Ride depending on if it's installed on a Volvo or Mack, it's the one with the super expensive V-Rods. Someone here called it an imitation camelback, which I'd have to agree. The camelback doesn't have a TPI on how to "improve" the V-Rods by using bronze races when replacing the bearing/bushing as one does a lot, the V-Ride does. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 As for seeing if there's aftermarket, I'd need at least the last six of your VIN. There have been differences in these suspensions that would lead to different part numbers. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2014pinnacle Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 My vin 1m1aw07y0gm053511 and that suspension diagram is wrong Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2014pinnacle Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 Better picture of it I can get the Lowe’s but the uppers are 3 weeks out Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2014pinnacle Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 If theirs any Volvo techs they call it a Volvo twin blade air suspension and I can find even less on it 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Its too new to be this hard to find parts.. are you in the U.S.A.? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2014pinnacle Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 I’m in Canada apparently nobody makes the parts after market apparently it’s not a common suspension either and nobody stocks anything Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Oh my...bud im sorry i cant help you. I was hoping Atro would have what you need Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted Friday at 01:56 PM Share Posted Friday at 01:56 PM 17 hours ago, The Heinz said: Known as the V-Ride or M-Ride depending on if it's installed on a Volvo or Mack, it's the one with the super expensive V-Rods. Someone here called it an imitation camelback, which I'd have to agree. The camelback doesn't have a TPI on how to "improve" the V-Rods by using bronze races when replacing the bearing/bushing as one does a lot, the V-Ride does. Guess i’m just old school and ran camel backs forever, far as i’m concerned can’t beat them with a very little maintenance. Terry 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2014pinnacle Posted Friday at 02:37 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 02:37 PM I agree with you there I bought the druck used if I was to order another 1 wouldn’t have this suspension and probably not a Mack this truck has been expensive to keep on the road but I guess all these new emissions trucks are the same 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted Friday at 02:39 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:39 PM 35 minutes ago, terry said: Guess i’m just old school and ran camel backs forever, far as i’m concerned can’t beat them with a very little maintenance. Terry Our Cruiseliner is my first experence with Camel backs.It does seem very simple with just one grease point.(each side)How often would they need to be greased?Is there any other maintenance that should be done?Its very simlar to the Hino version but on the Hino the spring sits on top of the axles....Japs copy anything thats good🤣 Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fjh Posted Friday at 02:47 PM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 02:47 PM Key to keeping the grease trunnion in shape is to jack it up by the trunnion shaft then grease it ! this lets the grease go to the places it needs to be! At least once a week or more if possible if your in severe service! for a play truck its not as vital! 3 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mechohaulic Posted Friday at 03:55 PM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 03:55 PM 1 hour ago, terry said: Guess i’m just old school and ran camel backs forever, far as i’m concerned can’t beat them with a very little maintenance. Terry I thought I was the only one in that (old) school.!! that V/M ride looks very complicated ? but of course I never understood how this "new " air bag suspension could hold payloads either taking place of heavy springs. witness to sooo many changes in the trucking industry. some good ;some not so. 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted Friday at 06:18 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:18 PM Oh, I've never seen that before... I've heard the V-Ride be called twin Y before so that's why I went off on it, let me see what your VIN pulls up. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted Friday at 06:19 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:19 PM Heinzy, is there an ATRO cross over ? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted Friday at 06:28 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:28 PM No, Atro has nothing for these bushings. They look similar to steer axle spring pins, see the picture below... ALL of them look like that, are on a national backorder, and have no aftermarket available. That sucks. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted Friday at 06:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:29 PM It's like an unnecessarily complicated Z-Spring Air Ride, I've never seen nor heard about this before. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted Friday at 06:39 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:39 PM (edited) It reminds me of a totally different suspension that was supposed to be new and great, only to have no support and sky high prices on replacement parts. The Neway ARDAB or "Air Beam" suspension. What a piece of crap, and I can say that 'cause I own one, and have had to build some replacement parts for it. My advice is decide if it is worth putting something else under the truck, or get rid of the truck and get a better supported truck/suspension. Truck suspensions are a "wearing" part, so if you fix it today, you'll go thought the same hassle down the road when it needs something else done. BTW the ARDAB also used twin bushing on top of the axle, and they wear and are very hard to find. Edited Friday at 06:40 PM by Geoff Weeks 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted Friday at 07:13 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:13 PM It is sad that an 11 year old Volvo doesnt have support.. makes mo sense, but I will put my money on Heinzy.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2014pinnacle Posted Friday at 09:45 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 09:45 PM The part number for the bushing is 22700131 says multi purpose bushing Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted Friday at 09:56 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:56 PM 22700131 is the number for the upper seat bushings, 22700132 is the lower seat bushings. The lowers are available, uppers are not unfortunately, with not a single dealer in Canada or the US showing any in inventory. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted Friday at 09:57 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:57 PM And there he is !!!! The Heinz !!! Dude... You Rock!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75060-mack-twin-y-suspension/#findComment-567621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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