Pacifica Pete Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Hi all! The starter on my departments truck seems to be dead. I think someone who didn't now what they were doing tried to start it, and cranked it to death. The truck is a 1949 Type 45, The engine is a Continental ENF-330 The starter is a Delco-Remy 1107456. (6V positive ground) I have not had any luck locating a replacement off the shelf so far. If anyone has resources for a replacement or rebuild components I would appreciate any leads. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Is it a direct drive delco or a gear reduction delco? Parts for the direct drives are easy to find, even N.O.S. but also re-pop. Gear reduction has the motor body offset from the drive section. Most direct drives can be easily rebuilt. Gear reduction can also be rebuilt if the armature and commutator are repairable. I have bought new armatures for my direct drive, but am unable to find any for my gear reduction unit. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacifica Pete Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 It is a direct drive. see pictures attached. It seems like starters or parts should be available considering how generic these things seem to be, I'm probably just searching incorrectly or don't know what to look for. pics attached. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Did you take the band off the back and look at the brushes and commutator? What is it doing, not spinning at all? Did you try testing it with jumper cables? Pos and neg ground are the same. 12 volts with jumper cables won't hurt it for a test Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckcrazy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Any good generator/starter shop should be able to rebuild it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Looks like the ones on my 269's. everything should be available for that starter. They do require lube on the rear bushing. I can also point you to a modern 12 volt if that is the way you are headed. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 SAE #1 starter nose. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacifica Pete Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 (edited) Yes I have tested it with jumper cables, and I have opened the inspection cover. I also disassembled the entire unit, cleaned commutator and inspected brushes. The commutator is worn but otherwise ok. brushes ok. shaft spins freely by hand. When power is applied it draws some power but does not turn. My assumption is that one of the coils is burned out. Edited February 15 by Pacifica Pete Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacifica Pete Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 4 minutes ago, Truckcrazy said: Any good generator/starter shop should be able to rebuild it. wish I knew of one! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacifica Pete Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 4 minutes ago, Geoff Weeks said: Looks like the ones on my 269's. everything should be available for that starter. They do require lube on the rear bushing. I can also point you to a modern 12 volt if that is the way you are headed. staying with 6V for now, the truck is pretty original. If you can point me to a vendor that sells parts I would greatly appreciate it! I'm having trouble locating it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Both field windings come together at the stud, often if over cranked and the windings overheat the solder can melt and you only have 1/2 the windings working. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Stiner had an armature for it and bushings/brushes https://antique-tractor-parts.steinertractor.com/search?w=1107456 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I've bought my stuff off ebay, I have part numbers for mine, but no way to look up all Delco numbers. That said, I am almost certain that the armature, field windings,and bushes would be the same. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarnall Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I have a great place by me, but I am in PA. Trappe Generator. You could ship it to them but it wouldn’t be cheap. Rebuilt is usually around $200 I think. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 https://www.ebay.com/itm/302659882437 https://www.ebay.com/itm/304539655469 https://www.ebay.com/itm/251125786912?_skw=delco+815839&itmmeta=01JM3MSABV5FNM4MK0B561E7FK&hash=item3a78436920:g:DtgAAMXQpwFRaj5G&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1ea0AmMd%2Fh1BLKfNDHCs%2BBs124as4XOlwg8ROG7zg5%2FznNTa%2BZIVfOGIOQHD9fbfVJFqX4GqPWL%2Bi6xoh2VIOkw4OuUj25qOGULSV5Wy9fXnCBEf6x4zrnmj2uaaHMHGFdV89E8oCx4H9EFAjLdSnuQLRwuSnor64eyfEPg3c4EsopmWtRtEkD4fhkx3CLq3I90%2BqOVTe0tqCK5OzhCZMUee0dWWnlF82AAMTH6cF5rEku4NOIpk7rz12UvCns44Cg%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR4Km5fSgZQ 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacifica Pete Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 Thanks all! I found a shop in San Francisco that specializes in rebuilding old starters. I'm going to look into that during business hours, as well as the DIY option with parts you all have recommended! I love this forum Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 If your commutator is just worn you can cut it in a lathe and then undercut the mica Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75163-help-finding-a-starter-for-type-45-enf-330/#findComment-569414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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