Not sure what happened

[Mark T]

30 minutes ago, Vladislav said:

So what is the reason a trouble occures finding working people? The answer is people are doing well enough having incoms they have consuming cheap Chinese goods. You can't force a man to stand a whole day near a lathe if he can spend the same time in a office chear. And if you try making lathe job attractive and offer 3 times higher wedges than for office job you would get a product 3 times more expensive than a made in China item. The solution is production of everything at home but 3 times more expensive than in the South East. This way you would just consume 3 times less of goods for your labour. Nobody wants such situation actually. And it wouldn't be achieved when the things are as they are now. To get to that you need to stop the draft of Eastern goods into the country. And that can be done by putting high border taxes. 

Looking the recent events that's exactly what I was typed above. So your distant future (I sure doubt it will come in that shape) would be less goods for more labour.

As I mentioned the approach here in Russia is similar. And you always hear plenty of talks why we don't produce locally and why there are so many Middle Asia workers employed. But those who talk don't realize they would have to pay higher costs for proper economy. On the other hand on my mind the proper economy is the way to go. And you may consume less and still do well just being efficient and not stupid. 

Wages are unrealistic. As an employer, even if you want to pay an employee a fair wage for the task they're hired for it doesn't end there. The rediculous amount it costs to insure that employee between workman's comp and some form of health insurance (lol) adds easily a third more on top of the wage. Usually all this added cost makes an employee a really lousy investment as it's virtually impossible for many to pay a fair wage and get enough production to pay added costs there's no return for.  Unless you're  a huge company making a fortune, you can't afford it. Then there's the matching withholding, that's not too crazy. It also adds to costs though. Then paid time off, HR costs the list goes on and on and on. This isn't going away any time soon.

[Joey Mack]

I think a lot of those issues with employing people is caused by govt. people who dont live at the regular worker level, and create depts. that cause problems, rather then solve them..  

But if your employing illegals,  no sweat, and you are a conservative who wants to improve the system, your a racist... The winners are not allowed to win... 

[mowerman]

lol joseph,,,,,,your begining to get louder than tjc keep it coming,,,,after telling you about my wifes situation,,,,,,i expect this is probably what investers considering starting up here,,,are already discussing.... and mark your absolutely correct about wages here,,,,75 bucks an hour is bare  minimum to keep good help here,,but that includes all the bells and whistles you brought up    bob