greg Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 What are those snorkels you see on air cleaners for, are they for looks or do they actually have a real purpose. I am trying to cut the noise level down inside my R-model and was wondering where I could get some sort of sound/heat deadening material. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 What are those snorkels you see on air cleaners for, are they for looks or do they actually have a real purpose. I am trying to cut the noise level down inside my R-model and was wondering where I could get some sort of sound/heat deadening material.The snorkel is used to keep the air intake higher off the ground where dust and dirt get kicked up. They are installed on allot of trucks in Australia because the dry dusty dirt roads of the outback will make short work of an airfilter. Some people might install em for looks too. As for the sound deadening try these two sites:http://www.soundown.com/AI.htmhttp://www.b-quiet.comDale has a B-67 with sound down and he says its very quiet in the cab. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I always wondered how good or bad they were when it was raining out? looks like it could suck in lots of water even with the gills on the sides? I know they were used alot Down under because of the dust. Wonder if the ram air effect helps power at Hwy speeds? I like the looks of them. trent Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogbred Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 actually trent our lowboy driver had an E9 powered superliner he had bought brand new and he said it always seemed to run best in the rain, that little bit of water when shes really pulling i think helps cool the air going in Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 kINDA LIKE A POOR MANS WATER INJECTION I can see how a mist of water is safe and actuly good for the engine but you know there is going to be a day you drive through that huge puddle and a massive amout of water could get sucked into the tube? that can cause an expinceve repair if it gets to the engine. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Greg check out Glacierbay.com for sound deadening material. It looks better than anything I have seen, but the price is way up there. They even have an on site demo with sound they say there's is better than soundown and west marine. It depends on how much ya wanna pay for a quiet ride! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I think ALOT of water would have to be sucked thru to get thru the entire filter element and create any kind of trouble....or help.I think the moisture would drip thru the element, then drop out the weep hole in bottom of housing. If I remember right, most of the newer trucks have a rubber one way that allows water out, and keeps from sucking air in. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I think ALOT of water would have to be sucked thru to get thru the entire filter element and create any kind of trouble....or help.I think the moisture would drip thru the element, then drop out the weep hole in bottom of housing. If I remember right, most of the newer trucks have a rubber one way that allows water out, and keeps from sucking air in.The snorkel on the Macks are about 10 feet off the ground. Here is a Titan diagram: Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermodynediesel Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 If you are looking to quiet the sound in the cab of a B-model there is a company that makes a kit for the b-model. www.quietridesolutions.com Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 If you are looking to quiet the sound in the cab of a B-model there is a company that makes a kit for the b-model. www.quietridesolutions.comI just checked and the right url is http://www.quietride.com Looks good. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermodynediesel Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I just checked and the right url is http://www.quietride.com Looks good.Thats right,it is just www.quietride.com Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Maikshilo Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 The snorkel on the Macks are about 10 feet off the ground. Here is a Titan diagram:Thad, nice daigram....you always come up with some neat stuff. I should put a couple snorkels on the super dog...I must clean the filter twice a week in the summer or replace it once a month. The pits around here get pretty dusty and the under the hood filter I believe isn't as good as two out side filters,Tim Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidniteMechanic Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Two outside filters are definately better than one under the hood. The intake air will be cooler. Just like when it rains, the air is more dense meaning more air into the cylinder. Besides even with a snorkel you'll never take in enough water to damage the engine. The best thing is to use a filter restriction gauge. Then you'll know when it's time to change the filters. I don't recomend cleaning them. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Thad, nice daigram....you always come up with some neat stuff. I should put a couple snorkels on the super dog...I must clean the filter twice a week in the summer or replace it once a month. The pits around here get pretty dusty and the under the hood filter I believe isn't as good as two out side filters,Tim I am always looking up stuff online! Knowledge is power! Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Maikshilo Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I am always looking up stuff online! Knowledge is power!Hey Thad it sounds like we need to find you a woman, (one that likes trucks), TimTwo outside filters are definately better than one under the hood. The intake air will be cooler. Just like when it rains, the air is more dense meaning more air into the cylinder. Besides even with a snorkel you'll never take in enough water to damage the engine. The best thing is to use a filter restriction gauge. Then you'll know when it's time to change the filters. I don't recomend cleaning them.I didn't realize that the air was denser in the rain. So it's not a good thing to bang out a dirty filter? I guess I'll put in a guage and go from there. I've got to price out an out side set up before spring (she's still parked in the shed), Tim Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 This may seem to be a somewhat "ignorant" question but I would like to know why the OEM's and aftermarket do not use oil bath air cleaners any longer. They only worked well for something like 80 years or so. Are replaceable paper elements that much better? A quart of engine oil is still much less expensive to replace than the filter elements of now a days. I am discounting the cost of labor at a truck repair facility of course.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I would bet the air flow thru an oil bath is not enough to produce the power in the bigger engines. Now that the engines are 900 ci, not 600 the amount of air needed, plus a turbo is probably way beyond the capabilities of an oil bath. It would proabably suck the oil right out of the pan! Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/868-what-are-those-for-looks-or-practical/#findComment-4455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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