Mad Max R Model

[heavyhauler]

A friend was watching an old Mad Max movie and asked me about the R model that they used in that movie. Any of you guys down under know what happened to that truck? Is it in someone's collection or perhaps it now resides in a museum somewhere in Oz? It would be nice to know.

Best regards,

John

[heavyhauler]

I have posted some photos from the movie in one of my albums showing the truck in action. I'll post a few more from the end of the movie where the truck is laying on its side with the tri-axle tanker behind it.

Regards,

John

[jeffbyrne]

I have posted some photos from the movie in one of my albums showing the truck in action. I'll post a few more from the end of the movie where the truck is laying on its side with the tri-axle tanker behind it.

Regards,

John

Hi John, I think judging by what happened to the truck at the end of the movie that it was a wreck, and probably sold off as parts and srap. I guess thats what happened to the Peterbilt in 'DUEL' aswell. regards Jeff.

[Lmackattack]

one of the duel movie and Convoy trucks were both rebuilt by a guy in St louis. I suspect the R600 in Mad max was totaled out and used for parts?

[ThaddeusW]

Not 100% sure but I remember hearing it was rebuilt and sold off or bought and rebuilt.

[Mark from OZ]

http://www.madmaxmovies.com/making/madmax2...Roll/index.html

clicky.... Probly went back to the wreckers. There were 2 of em.

[ducky698]

http://www.madmaxmovies.com/making/madmax2...Roll/index.html

clicky.... Probly went back to the wreckers. There were 2 of em.

trucking life did a story on the driver ages ago, i dont think there was two of them, as Mel was going to drive it, but he couldnt even reverse his mini! so the truck driver who was bringing in there stuff got the job. it had a twin stick box in it.

Grant

www.lastinterceptor.com

[Mark from OZ]

same as

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/articl...23005_news.html

[bulldog man]

YA look real close when the do an inside shot of the cab w/ the blue healer in the cab ya can JUST make out the 2 stick 6 spd

I know ive said this before but ive always wanted to drive an "Aussie" Bulldog but be my luck id go to swap gears in the 2 stick & open the drivers door insted.

I Guess Mel would trip out to see that R model BACK UP in 5th gear then .

Sounded like a 237 or a 285 when the air starter kicked the Bulldog over

Any idea on where to find the specs of this R model ?

later yall

[MADDOG83]

Hi new to forum, I know this is a very old topic but this truck and my later love affair with the R models is why I am here. I have done allot of research on this topic and speak with Dennis Williams on a regular bases. Those who don't know who Dennis is, he is in the end credits for MM2 as he preformed all the truck stunts. I am also waiting to hear back from Ralph Clark, Dennis's mate who was transport director for the film. There where two trucks used in the film as someone suggested earlier in the post. Both where very different in configuration and one mocked up by the arts department to look like the other. Have done allot of research and still trying to pinpoint there exact power plants but I'm 90% certain that neither of them where cool powers as everyone expects.  Now what Dennis likes to refer to a the "hero truck" was the truck used mostly in the film and preformed all the major stunts and obviously rolled at the end of film. What we refer to as the "double truck" was used for some driving scenes in the end chase  (they where experiencing problems with a quadruplex transmission) and mostly interior shots during the later part of the film.  Originally there was only one truck purchased for filming however the props and production department decided to paint up one of the borrowed transport trucks as a double. The Mack dealership from where it was borrowed not impressed when it was returned after filming had finished.  If you watch the film closely you will notice the truck changes from twin stick to single stick with a splitter a few times in the end chase. To the best of our knowledge this double was repainted and sold through the dealership to people Unknown. I am currently trying to track it down or at least what happened to it. The "hero truck" was returned to Ralph's yard in Northern Sydney were he wrecked it. The driveline was exported to Papua New Guinea and the rest went for scrap. If Dennis had any idea the cult following this truck would have still some 36 years later he would have kept the wreck himself. Hope this helps. 

Cheers 

 

 

[mrsmackpaul]

Mad dog welcome to the forum

 

Im not a big Mad Max fan but thats just me so I dunno much about the movies Cundalini is still looking for his hand the old Falcon was a cool looking gadget and the Mad Max off road runner is cooler I reckon

Mad Max 3 I have never been able to watch and I havent even bothered trying watch the latest offering 

The best R model was in the first movie with the folder on the back 

What makes you think it isnt a cool power the R model in the second flick ????

 

Paul

[MADDOG83]

Hi Paul,

As you can guess Dennis couldn't remember the engines 36 years later all he could remember was they where both turbo 6's. To cut a long story short in the last 6 months I secured an rare behind the scenes, under bonnet photo of the hero truck taken from the left hand side. I will post it when I work out how too. I'm no mack expert but Its defiantly not a cool power. I think possibly a ENDT673 however still can't work out why it has twin cleaners. For many years I believe it was a coolpower also but from my research I date the trucks 1970-1971 which puts them before coolpower come to Aus approx 1974. I have just sent an email to the family business who originally owned the hero truck and hoping to hear from them soon. 

Cheers 

Edited June 7, 2016 by MADDOG83

[harrybarbon]

I saw the remaining Mad Max Mack R model was on display at a hot rod car show at the Melbourne Exhibition building late last year or earlier this year.

I did not take any photos, but I recall that it is black colour and is pretty rough but runs and was complete.

I will do some research ans see if I can find information and a picture, even track down the owner.

 

 

[MADDOG83]

Hey mate sorry to burst any bubbles but that was one of the three replicas that is around. You would have noticed it was a wide cab with wrap around dash. I know the truck you are talking about! The original mad max ones were narrow cabs with flintstone dashes. 

Cheers 

Edited June 7, 2016 by MADDOG83

[MADDOG83]

Out of all the replicas on the scene in Australia no one has done one correctly, that being with an early narrow cab and flintstone dash unfortunately. 

[MADDOG83]

This is a very rare behind the scenes photo of the hero truck at the compound site. You can see remnants of its original red paintwork by the aircleaners and on the chassis rail. As you can see it's not a cool power as there is no aftercooler on the side of the head. The double truck was actually Mack green with a cream strip. If you watch the film closely you can see the red paintwork on the underside of the turned over hero truck and can also see remnants of green on the double truck when Max is being attacked in the cab. Any info on what this engine is would be greatly appreciated. When this truck was traded at the kenworth dealership in 1980 it already had the twin aircleaners and twin exhaust stacks. The probs department added the dummy cleaner and extra stack to the double in its transformation. Like I said and info help would be greatly appreciated. 

Cheers 

Edited June 7, 2016 by MADDOG83

[j hancock]

No doubt about that being an oil clarifier instead of the coolpower aftercooler.  Neat picture!

[MADDOG83]

Very rare photo of the two trucks together, taken by a broken hill local. The truck on the left is the double. I can tell this by the slightly different front hub. Both trucks have the early greased hubs however on the hero truck also has slightly protruding dust caps/shields. All stationary scenes in the movie where filmed using the hero truck. 

Cheers 

 

[MADDOG83]

Those with a keen eye will also notice the double has front mud flaps the hero dose not (not that you can see where they would be with the guy standing in the way).

You can also see the road rash on the bullbar of the hero truck near the arm of the guy in the green jacket this was from when it t-boned the bat car (red falcon) 

Cheers

[Vladislav]

Thank you for sharing these facts, pretty interesting.

I was wondering for a while on the faith of MM2 truck.

Vlad

[RFCDrum]

The Truckin Life article from a few years ago had that the driver brought up two of them. One was a two valve 676 and they were both Quadraplexes. He had to lay on the floor as tghere was no time to teach Mel. 

  Cheers, Rob

[mrsmackpaul]

That oil filter would tell someone smarter than the newest it could be dunno wont be any newer 71 or 72 as Mack had spin filters with extended service interval around that time 

Back axles if you can see the hubs should also give some hints as to how big the truck is , I cant see no turbo so if it 34 ass end it may have been a Power Pup, Mack turbos on these motors sort of sat forward of the oil filter if its non turbo I think it would be only around 150 hp maybe 160 at the most

A whole lot of guessing going on from me  

Sorry Im not gunna be of much help here 

 

Paul

Edited June 7, 2016 by mrsmackpaul

[MADDOG83]

2 hours ago, RFCDrum said:

The Truckin Life article from a few years ago had that the driver brought up two of them. One was a two valve 676 and they were both Quadraplexes. He had to lay on the floor as tghere was no time to teach Mel. 

  Cheers, Rob

Hey rob, Thankyou for your reply. Unfortunately I have never read the artical in trucking life so can only go from what Dennis tells me on the phone, he can't remember exact power plants but said they where apparently both turbo 6's. I'm waiting to hear back from Ralph Clark and the original owner from country NSW's. Transmission in the hero truck was a quadruplex defiantly and Denise said the double was a single stick 10 speed with the spliter on top. They actually drove up 3 trucks from Sydney, Dennis drove two and Ralph drove the other. The first two trucks where on loan from Mack trucks, they where suppose to be used for transporting gear around and bring many of the vehicles up from Sydney. The borrowed trucks where the green r model (that would be later the double truck) and a green flintstone. Dennis and Ralph drove these up from Sydney together and then They flew back to Sydney to bring up the finished hero truck and tanker. On returning it was discovered the art department had gone to town on the borrowed mack. Even after Ralph and Dennis's grave concern over its new identity and the fact that it was borrowed the production department didn't really care. Apparently Ralph had a very interesting time when it was returned to Mack trucks lol. 

Here is a photo of the double mack with 10 speed gearbox.

cheers 

[MADDOG83]

1 hour ago, mrsmackpaul said:

That oil filter would tell someone smarter than the newest it could be dunno wont be any newer 71 or 72 as Mack had spin filters with extended service interval around that time 

Back axles if you can see the hubs should also give some hints as to how big the truck is , I cant see no turbo so if it 34 ass end it may have been a Power Pup, Mack turbos on these motors sort of sat forward of the oil filter if its non turbo I think it would be only around 150 hp maybe 160 at the most

A whole lot of guessing going on from me  

Sorry Im not gunna be of much help here 

 

Paul

Hi Paul I will see if I have any rear axle shots in my collection, would the turbo be on the right side or left? I presumed it would be on the right? 

Cheers

[j hancock]

Turbo is on the right side.  Below are a couple of the Mack R models that would have been available in the time period of the small cab.

Mack R609 is an END 711 (non turbo) 211 HP Thermodyne, TRD 722 10 spd duplex transmission, triplex or Quad box.

Mack R607 END673P (non turbo) 187 HP Thermodyne, TRD 10 spd duplex trans or optional Quad box.

Mack R611 ENDT673 turbo 225 HP Thermodyne, TRD 722 10 spd duplex trans or Quad box.

Mack R685 ENDT675 turbo 237 HP Maxidyne, 5 or 6 spd Maxitorque trans.